Ex-CIA analyst (McGovern): Forged 'yellowcake' memo 'leads right back to' Cheney

[Roland99]

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/ExCIA_analyst_Forged_yellowcake_memo_leads_0430.html

A former CIA analyst claims that falsified documents which were meant to show that Iraq's Saddam Hussein regime had been trying to procure yellowcake uranium from Niger can be traced back to Vice President Dick Cheney.

Appearing on MSNBC's Tucker Carlson show, Ray McGovern who served in the CIA for twenty-seven years, said, "the (forged) memo leads right back to the doorstep of the Vice President of the United States."

According to McGovern, former CIA Director George Tenet told his "coterie of malleable managers" at the CIA to create a National Intelligence Estimate "to the terms of reference of Dick Cheney's speech of August 26, 2002, where Dick Cheney said for the first time Saddam Hussein could have a nuclear weapon in a year, he's got all kinds of chemical, he's got all kinds of biological weapons."

McGovern, who at one time chaired National Intelligence Estimates and prepared the President's Daily Brief, also claimed to have evidence that the memo leads back to Cheney but he would say what it was, except that the names of the people involved were "in the public domain."

There was a thread here over the weekend, I believe, where someone posited that Cheney was behind this memo back in the late 90s.

Looks like quite a bit of validation here. You can really tell McGovern doesn't give two shits about Tenet either.


(Video at the link, too)

[Jackpine Radical]

1. So, how did Fucker reply?

And why did he have McGovern (love that name) on there anyway? Obviously if you give a mike to Ray McGovern he's gonna lay out some unpleasant truths that Fucker won't want his audience to hear about.

[Roland99]

2. I bet his bowtie would have been spinning so fast as to decapitate him, if he still wore it

[H2O Man]

10. Perhaps

some of the "powers that be" who pull Tucker's strings recognize that, in order to keep the body republican healthy, they need to remove the malignancy. More and more republicans seem to be willing to place blame on Dick Cheney.

[pberq]

19. Boy, do I hope you're right.

The way I understand it, Nixon finally went after the Republicans wanted him out. Until then he stayed.

Some people have argued that Bush/Cheney will stay until the Republicans have had enough.

[EVDebs]

21. Yes, Barry Goldwater read Nixon the 'facts'

"At the height of the Watergate crisis, when the Republicans in Congress needed someone to tell President Richard M. Nixon he should resign, they chose Mr. Goldwater. But instead of telling the president what to do, Mr. Goldwater simply informed him in the Oval Office on Aug. 7, 1974, that the Republicans in Congress were unwilling and unable to stop his impeachment and conviction should he remain in office. Nixon announced his resignation the next day."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/may98/goldwater30.htm

Goldwater supported Nixon until he too realized what Nixon was doing to the party. Today there is NO ONE with any personal unblemished character within the GOP, and certainly no one with any balls they're willing to risk, who will tell King George he is killing the GOP.

Pssst. DUers. Don't let this little tidbit out too soon. Let the GOP become like the WHIG Party or the Know-Nothing Party...political dinosaurs.

[malaise]

11. McGovern was great on Anderson Cooper last night

He really is fearless.

[On the Road]

3. Wow -- Tucker Said

that if McGovern's allegations were true, it constitutes a felony and an impeachable offense. That's a shock.

[calimary]

4. Shock and awe. Take action HERE, NOW (please):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x790622

[Roland99]

5. Done!!!

[jazzjunkysue]

6. Great interview. Tucker played along, and you could see him racking

up gold stars from his bosses. THen, he just changed the subject, refusing to consider the implication that had just been presented to him: Bush/Cheney will fabricate anything for their illegal purposes, and Tucker's too dumb to realize he's been duped.

It's a new low for stupid.

[Roland99]

7. Yeah, but McGovern all but said the name of Ledeen!

[Lugnut]

8. K&R n/t

:kick:

[Roland99]

9. Think Cheney is going to be yelling out "Mayday! Mayday!"?

:)

[Kip Humphrey]

12. Is this why Cheney, in a panic, HAD to try to kill the story by outing Valerie Plame?

[originalpckelly]

15. Yes, and this is also why Cheney and Libby were so personally involved...

as well as why they went after Chris Mathews when he asked whether or not Cheney received a report back on his inquiry that lead to Joe Wilson's trip.

Do you get it? This is the same thing that clicked in my head during the Scooter Libby trial. I would go looking for my post from a late night on DU where I said this, but right now we're on high traffic mode, so the advanced archive search isn't working.

[originalpckelly]

16. Here is the original post that I found using Google, this is the night I figured this out:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x365367

[cyberpj]

13. K&R

[originalpckelly]

14. I believe I'm the person you're referring to.

And I've said it a number of times before. I say it because of the way that Cheney personally directed the outing of Valerie "Plame" (Wilson).

I think that along with the fact that the person who forged the documents, who was supposedly dead broke as recent as 2000 is now a rich man with his own personal country estate in northern Italy.

I think Cheney and his co-conspirators outed her to distract us from the real story of the Niger forgeries.

And if you look at the way they reacted to Chris Mathews asking whether or not Cheney received a report back on the Niger claim, in that they created a fucking transcript of it and called and complained about it so vociferously. I think that "inquiry" was really meant to get the CIA to investigate the Niger claim and get the BS Niger documents into the pipeline. I don't think Cheney wanted an answer back, he already knew what the answer was.

We also know from Tenet's new book that Cheney was interested in Iraq pre-9/11 as early as late 2000. The staged burglary at the Nigerien Embassy in Rome, Italy took place earlier in 2000. It is far more likely than before, that Dick Cheney was somehow involved. It's just all these little pieces that add up to make the larger and more disturbing picture.

You have to congratulate Cheney, the place where the crimes occurred was a foreign country, so it's been harder for people to do the investigative work. If it weren't for the two investigative journalists from Italy, none of us would know Italian intelligence (SISMI) was involved in the forgery of the Niger documents and even the fucking aluminum tubes.

Here is my reply to the story about Tenet saying Cheney was interested in Iraq before 9/11:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=776270&mesg_id=776283

[Roland99]

17. It's like a neon sign flashing "I'm Guilty" but the Dems are still too skeered.

[FatDave]

18. Give 'em time, Roland, give 'em time.

Look what they've uncovered in just a little over 3 months. If the evidence is there, they'll follow it. And as H2O man said upthread, Cheney seems to have reached a tipping point with most republicans.

[Darkhawk32]

20. They have adequate evidence to do it. They have public opinion on their side....

wtf are they waiting for?

[va4wilderness]

22. Da-yummmn

"Right back to the doorstep"

:bounce: