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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:06 PM
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Solar Storms Could Be Earth's Next Katrina
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124125001&f=1002&sc=igg2

by Jon Hamilton

February 26, 2010

A massive solar storm could leave millions of people around the world without electricity, running water, or phone service, government officials say.

That was their conclusion after participating in a tabletop exercise that looked at what might happen today if the Earth were struck by a solar storm as intense as the huge storms that occurred in 1921 and 1859.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:17 PM
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1. the earth has been active recently and now the Sun is having a go at us!
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:24 PM
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2. I can believe this.... others not so much. n/t
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vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:24 PM
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3. shit happens.... n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:25 PM
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4. We are doomed, indeed...
But when? That's what nobody knows. So, I'm just going to pull the blankets over my head and go back to sleep. There's just no point in doing anything else.
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agent46 Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 05:35 PM
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15. My new year's resolution
My new year's resolution for 2010 was that I'd hang in there no matter what and stay drunk - not necessarily in that order.
It's worked pretty well so far.

:hippie:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 07:54 PM
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19. Good plan, if these threads are any indication...
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agent46 Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:04 PM
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20. For one thing
It's a time-honored method for deflecting solar storms.

:toast:
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:25 PM
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5. We'll all be killed... We'll all be killed...
Sounds like a typical day of programming at the History Channel
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:30 PM
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6. When will it end? When will it all end?
Run for your lives...
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:33 PM
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8. Nasa isn't concerned about it so why bother???
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/10mar_stormwarning.htm



Solar Storm Warning

03.10.2006

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March 10, 2006: It's official: Solar minimum has arrived. Sunspots have all but vanished. Solar flares are nonexistent. The sun is utterly quiet.

Like the quiet before a storm.

This week researchers announced that a storm is coming--the most intense solar maximum in fifty years. The prediction comes from a team led by Mausumi Dikpati of the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). "The next sunspot cycle will be 30% to 50% stronger than the previous one," she says. If correct, the years ahead could produce a burst of solar activity second only to the historic Solar Max of 1958.

see captionThat was a solar maximum. The Space Age was just beginning: Sputnik was launched in Oct. 1957 and Explorer 1 (the first US satellite) in Jan. 1958. In 1958 you couldn't tell that a solar storm was underway by looking at the bars on your cell phone; cell phones didn't exist. Even so, people knew something big was happening when Northern Lights were sighted three times in Mexico. A similar maximum now would be noticed by its effect on cell phones, GPS, weather satellites and many other modern technologies.

Right: Intense auroras over Fairbanks, Alaska, in 1958.

Dikpati's prediction is unprecedented. In nearly-two centuries since the 11-year sunspot cycle was discovered, scientists have struggled to predict the size of future maxima—and failed. Solar maxima can be intense, as in 1958, or barely detectable, as in 1805, obeying no obvious pattern.

The key to the mystery, Dikpati realized years ago, is a conveyor belt on the sun.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:42 PM
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11. So, what are you planning to do to prepare?
You obviously can't do anything to prevent solar activity, so you must be doing something to prepare for it. If not, what's the point of worrying about something that may not happen for another 50 years?

But, if you are making plans, let's hear them. Maybe we can learn from your research and planning.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:45 PM
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12. I plan to remain firmly grounded in the belief that the sun is
driven by external electrical forces. Your mileage may vary. Being grounded is a good thing when facing such a storm btw.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 07:53 PM
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18. Alrighty, then...
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:31 PM
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7. Luckily it will knock out the sentient robots which will revolt and enslave us all.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:34 PM
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9. Sci Fi channel did that a few weeks ago
I think they're on attacks by giant snakes all day today.


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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:40 PM
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10. Anything that damages the power grid keeps me working.
Bring it on... I need the money!
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 05:20 PM
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13. Are rooftop solar collectors/panels affected by solar storms?...n/t
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heli Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 12:05 AM
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22. They shouldn't be affected
Edited on Sun Feb-28-10 12:05 AM by heli
They work by collecting photons travelling at the speed of light. There will be photons as long as the sun shines.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 05:23 PM
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14. Saw a cool 3-D presentation about this at the Science Center in CT.
But it would knock out communications systems and COULD fry the power grids.

"The most violent explosions in our solar system are happening right now on the Sun. Billion megaton blasts shoot out solar prominences that loop into space for thousands of miles. These Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) create radiation responsible for the stunning auroras that are the northern and southern lights at the Earth's poles. But they can also have catastrophic consequences for our planet. Massive geomagnetic storms have been known to wreak havoc on manned spacecraft, destroy satellites and disable power grids."http://www.ctsciencecenter.org/things-to-do/3d-sun.aspx

Interesting but may not kill us.

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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 05:36 PM
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16. Time to bomb the sun.
It'll never learn.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 05:39 PM
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17. /grabs sunscreen
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 11:36 PM
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21. They must have just watched "Knowing" with Nicholas Cage.
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PhD Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-28-10 06:34 AM
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23. I think you've been watching too many SyFy Channel movies
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