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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:53 PM
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Important Info: Reconciliation Can Be Used To Pass Anything; Here’s How - FDL
Reconciliation Can Be Used To Pass Anything; Here’s How
By: Jon Walker Friday February 19, 2010 12:45 pm - FireDogLake

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There has been a lot of talk about using reconciliation lately. What is important is that reconciliation measures by law face only limited debate in the Senate, so, as a result, can’t be filibustered. Reconciliation measures can pass with a simple, Constitutional majority vote. Part of the what governs reconciliation is the Byrd rule. These are a set of parameters for what can and can’t be part of a reconciliation measure. Effectively every provision in the bill must affect the budget, or it can be removed by the Byrd rule. In theory, this very much restricts what reconciliation can be used for, but the decision of how to apply the Byrd rule is ultimately up to Joe Biden.

What is important is whose job it is to decide if a provision runs afoul of the Byrd rule. The Senate parliamentarian’s role is to make the determination and advise the presiding officer of the Senate, normally the Vice President, on how to rule. By tradition, the presiding officer essentially always rules in accordance with the parliamentarian’s advice, but technically the final decision is completely up to the presiding officer.

Normally, a senator raises a point of order, saying a provision in the reconciliation bill violates the Byrd rule. Assuming he or she agrees, the parliamentarian makes a determination, and tells the presiding officer that it does violate the Byrd rule. The presiding officer normally rules in accordance with the parliamentarian’s advice, and sustains the motion. The provision would be removed, unless 60 senators vote to waive the Byrd rule for that provision, allowing it to stay in the bill. Under reconciliation, it takes 60 votes to waive a point of order or overturn the chair’s ruling against a point of order.

As the presiding officer of the Senate, VP Joe Biden does not need to follow the advice of the parliamentarian. During debate on a reconciliation bill, he has the power to reject every point of order made about a provision that might violate the Byrd rule. And, if he did, it would take 60 votes to overrule him and remove the provision. Ultimately, Joe Biden could decide that nothing, or almost nothing, runs afoul of the Byrd rule, and allow practically anything to pass the Senate using reconciliation and a simple majority vote.

This would be a violation of Senate tradition re: reconciliation and the Byrd rule, but it is still technically allowed under a strict interpretation of the rules. It is important to remember that the “tradition” of reconciliation only dates back to its creation in 1974, and the Byrd rule was created in 1985.

Of course, the Republicans have decided to use a strict interpretation of the rules governing debate to violate Senate tradition by creating a de facto supermajority requirement for ever piece of routine business. If the Republican are willing to play hardball by with the Senate rules by filibustering everything, the Democrats have no other option but to respond in kind.

Using reconciliation for everything is not a perfect solution–ideally, the Senate would function according to the Constitution, and allow a simple majority to pass legislation through regular order. But If Democrats were willing to match Republican hardball tactics with hardball tactics of their own, they can technically use reconciliation to pass almost any law they want with a simple majority.

For more information on reconciliation and the Byrd rule, you can read the following Congressional Research Services report: http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/52675.pdf

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Link: http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/02/19/reconciliation-can-be-used-to-pass-anything-here%E2%80%99s-how/

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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:55 PM
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1. true
. . . but it just hasn't been done before. It would buck a heap of precedent. I'm not sure this WH has that kind of zeal or intends that type of confrontation with the Legislative branch.
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 09:44 PM
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4. They just set a precedent by throwing out Nuremburg.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 09:14 PM
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2. I thought you couldn't insert anything into a reconciliation bill that wasn't already
in at least one of the existing bills to be reconciled.
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 09:20 PM
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3. Looks like some spine is required--Dems need to do it...
if they want to hold on to majorities and their base.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 03:59 PM
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5. Kick !!!
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Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 04:07 PM
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6. Great! Now if someone could just provide Senate Democrats with the
phone number of "Rent-A-Pair", maybe we can get on with the peoples' business.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 04:09 PM
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7. Gotta Use Avis... They Try Harder...
Sorry...

:silly:

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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 04:15 PM
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8. Joe Biden has too much respect for Senate tradition
to circumvent to the Senate parliamentarian in such an unprecedented way. This is another one of those legislative fantasies that is not even on the radar screen in Washington.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 04:31 PM
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9. Senate Tradition Is Currently Being Eviscerated By The Republicans...
If the Republicans don't want to lose their Filibuster in total, they might want rethink their obstructionism.

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