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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:03 PM
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J-Stack would be no more or less of a coward as a RW'er as he would have been were he a LW'er.
"OOOoooh! I hope he was a teabagger!" is no less sickening than "OOOoooh! He was a commie/pinko/hippie/liberal/Democrat" and both are mindboggling.

Actually, both are indicative of the divide between left and right and a sad commentary of the state of politics in our country.
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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:04 PM
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1. Was he really a wingnut?
In his manifesto the following was stated:

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

I don't know. Perhaps something else was involved...
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:06 PM
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3. Maybe a new breed of Socialist teabagger? Hated George Bush that's for sure.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:07 PM
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4. Which socialists do you know that complain about paying taxes?
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:09 PM
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7. Please read the comments in the threads that purport to "understand" him. Thanks.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:13 PM
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9. Might not be a case of "understanding him" but rather
understanding what he is saying. On the other hand, if I had a plane I would just sell it and pay my taxes.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:15 PM
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12. Socialistic societies pay MORE taxes, just distributed more progressively
In exchange they get things like healthcare and public transportation.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:11 PM
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8. I complain about mine
but only to the effect that the billionaire 20 blocks over isn't paying his fair share while those of us in the middle class pay more than we should. I pay them though. Down with loopholes!
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:14 PM
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10. You (and I) want the tax code changed to what it was back in the 50s.
I'm sure this guy didn't even want that. He was anti-tax period.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:18 PM
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14. We are all anti-tax to a degree
simply because the current system is not based on fairness. Us smart ones though, know the system will never be fair, we will always pay the piper and flying a plane into a building won't change it.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:22 PM
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15. It's the reason that is important.
And I do not consider myself anti-tax. I wish it were more fair, but I understand why I pay taxes and I'll pay.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:35 PM
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20. Thank you.
It shocks me that people here would be anti-tax.

Do we want a decent social safety net or not?
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:15 PM
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11. As have many today in other threads. Thank you for your honesty.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:04 PM
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2. Yep, nothing but a tax evading murderer. Period. No matter what his
politics were. I think he was his own party. The selfish murderer party.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:08 PM
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5. He sounds like a guy who tried to get by legally and illegally.
When he found out he couldn't do it either way he snapped and went homicidal/suicidal.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:08 PM
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6. Lot of anti-IRS sentiment in other threads so the tax thing doesn't seems definitive does it?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:16 PM
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13. exactly right.
he was a guy who slammed a plane into a building full of innocent people because he was unable to deal with the problems in his life.

Even though I read is crazy ass manifesto, it's nothing more than a nutty screed against the system, which he felt, wronged him some how.

The one thing I did take away from his note, was very simple; it was everyone else's fault but his. Funny how that is, isn't it?
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:29 PM
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17. True... what sort of dumbass thinks "I didn't make money, so I don't have to file"?
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 06:30 PM by gmoney
The IRS doesn't KNOW you didn't make any money UNLESS you file, and if you really made no money, chances are you'll get some sort of a refund. This dumbass knew that once you start filing, you pretty much have to keep filing, or you'll find trouble.

He was not being honest there. And while I don't doubt this guy had some tough breaks and bad luck, he seemed to be all about "the big score" rather than just working and earning a living.

I'd say he's a failed free-market capitalist. If he'd managed to have a "hit" with one of his endeavors, I'm sure he would have been singing a different tune, flying his private plane down to Cabo.

I can't wait to hear Neal Boortz's spin on this though... he's so pro-private pilot, and all about profiling. So Neal, should the TSA detain and interrogate anti-tax private pilots like, uh, YOU? Or was he justified and a hero for crashing into an IRS building?
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 05:33 PM
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16. He was a guy that didn't want to pay taxes. He tried to kill his wife and daughter.
Sad commentary on a fucked up anti-government, anti-tax "citizen".
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:32 PM
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18. Who was hoping?
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 06:33 PM by redqueen
I saw a lot of people wondering. That's what people do.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:34 PM
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19. I don't give a crap what party, if any, he affiliated himself with.
He terrorized good, innocent people who didn't deserve this. He's an asshole.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 07:51 PM
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21. From what I've read, he could have been either way ...
Before I jumped in, and got scolded by a RWer on here who demands proof akin to the point that a signed confession by the perpetrator may not be enough to convince him, I read the story ...

Quite a number of references in his "text" ... which indicate anger at both sides of the "equation" ... attacks on Moynihan, "corrupt unions", as well as Arthur Anderson and others ...
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