Cheney has admitted his role in waterboarding before - from 2008

[Solly Mack]

From 2008

"Vice President Dick Cheney said Monday that he was directly involved in approving severe interrogation methods used by the CIA...]

Cheney's comments also mark the first time that he has acknowledged playing a central role in clearing the CIA's use of an array of controversial interrogation tactics, including a simulated drowning method known as waterboarding.

"I was aware of the program, certainly, and involved in helping get the process cleared," Cheney said in an interview with ABC News."


In 2006, he admitted the US did use waterboarding and that he knew about it....and he cited the torture of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed as the example.

How I know Cheney did confess to water boarding


Cheney continues to confess and brag about torture and his involvement in torture....and he does so because he knows no one in America is ever going to charge him - or the rest of the guilty - for their crimes.

Cheney doesn't want to travel to any country that would charge him anyway - his oil buddy countries will allow him in freely & without hassle. He has absolutely nothing to lose by going on TV and bragging about his war crimes. Nothing. Not him or the rest of the guilty...because Cheney is far from alone in his guilt.

[EFerrari]

1. Back to the future.

There has to be a name for these revolving "first time" revelations. :shrug:

[Solly Mack]

2. I know, right! We need a name for it.

We seem to share a pet peeve :)

[EFerrari]

4. It's more complicated than just selective perception

because it involves not recognizing something you already know over and over? Maybe a psychiatrist or psychologist will check in.

[Solly Mack]

5. Maybe one will. There's got to be an explanation for it.

[bleever]

10. Well, "re-revelation" doesn't quite seem like the term needed, but

I bet we could come up with something.

How about "prevelation": n. 1. something already known, but spoken of as newly discovered; 2. a matter of historical record which becomes "newsworthy" well after its establishment; 3. the strategy whereby an established fact is newly promoted as news, in order to make it seem ephemeral, and worthy of only momentary consideration.

[Solly Mack]

11. #3 sounds good!

Sometimes I think the the not-so-new news comes out in hopes of generating outrage...but not to encourage action so much as to direct the outrage...get mad at this person, direct all your outrage here....and forget that nothing is being done about it....just focus your outrage on how horrible this person is and how wrong this person is and how bad this person is

In some cases, that is... especially in the case of Cheney, I think...it just strikes me that Cheney rears his ugly mug just to direct outrage his way....then he goes on his merry way for a while, then he rears his ugly mug again...and people join forces against a common enemy and most people won't ask...why isn't he in prison..Oh, some do ask...but most are too caught up in their outrage at his comments and their focus is on the comments...then time goes by, calm is restored, and Cheney rears his ugly mug again...and pretty much says the same things over and over again...it's almost become a cycle.

I've gotten to the point I can't work myself up over anything Cheney says...he should be in prison and the fact that he isn't is the real outrage to my thinking.


I'm not saying that each time Cheney admits to his war crimes isn't news worthy, but just how many times does he have to confess before outrage is directed toward getting something done about it? Could be because the prospect of ever holding him and the others accountable is so slim, the outrage remains focused at him (and the other guilty parties)...because it's the only real outlet available. The media doesn't help any...they help create the problem.


Members of Congress have acted as if some so-called new revelation was new to them and just so shocking, even though past news articles show they already knew (from their comments made then)...and yet the same press that quotes the "new" shock doesn't bother mentioning the previous same shock over the same revelation weeks, months, years ago...


I know I didn't explain myself well at all...I'm rambling.

[bleever]

14. That was a good explanation.

Cheney feels invulnerable (and seems like it, too), so he can absorb and neutralize outrage that in another reality would have resulted in war crimes trials.

[EFerrari]

17. Faux news!

[upi402]

3. So can we at least look into this crap, and all the illegalities?

Ms Plame needs a bit of justice still. There's a little issue about outing a CIA operative for BS political retaliation. Ugh, he's on TV flicking the nose of Obama and Justice.

Torture too! Why the hell not restore the rule of law? We can do this.

[Solly Mack]

6. I keep hoping..

[truedelphi]

13. One problem is that when anyone investigates so much of this, it comes out that

Various House and Senate Leaders were kept in the loop as to what was going on in part because of National Security Briefings, etc. Some of them were Democrats, so basically we would have to get people in power to be willing to put themselves behind bars.

Believe me, I would love to see Cheney (and Rumsfeld, Ashcraft and Yoo too) all in jail for a long long time.

But I just don't see how it would ever happen.

[stevedeshazer]

7. Most Americans don't care, they just accept the situation.

It's wrong, but that's what it is.

[Solly Mack]

8. Sadly, I agree.

:(

[Swamp Rat]

9. k&r

[Solly Mack]

12. Hey Swamp Rat!

:hi:

The man belongs in prison...hard to do interviews behind bars.

[NightWatcher]

15. he also got drunk and shot his friendo in the face...and got away with it

he belongs to a class that is above the law.

[Solly Mack]

16. and his victim apologized to him

Yet we're constantly told how no one is above the law...and people cheer it when someone says it (as if it really made a difference in saying it)...even though all kinds of evidence exist that exposes it as a lie.



It's sickening.

[Soylent Brice]

18. K&R