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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 12:13 PM
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Do you suppose bullets and free trade will ever make wheat more profitable than opium
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/world/asia/13afghan.html?ref=world

What's missing in the glorified descriptions of the assault is that the Taliban playing the part of Al Capone is simply the middle man. They pay more money for the poppy product than the world will pay for another ton of wheat.

So, it will take a lot of convincing to keep the Afghanis growing wheat.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 12:38 PM
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1. Ending the drug war will make wheat more profitable
Opium harvesting is a labor intensive operation and only black market prices make it so profitable.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 01:14 PM
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3. I totally agree.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 01:02 PM
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2. If they don't have the "dough" to purchase thousands of these,
Edited on Sat Feb-13-10 01:02 PM by HysteryDiagnosis
and if they don't have the expertise to repair them IF they have the dough... well you see the problem I'm sure.

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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 01:18 PM
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4. Exactly! Because on the global market this is the competition. And US farmers have optimized
since farming became a science; like 50/60 yrs. And the tragic thing is that a lot of wheat just rots while people starve and only price supports and favorable bank lending practices keep farmers in business. And in fact it is those factors that focus the production on corn and wheat; anything else, you're on your own.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 01:24 PM
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5. America needs to buy all the opium from the Afghanis
Or at least enough to collapse the global heroin market.

Or pay opium prices for Afghan wheat.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 01:29 PM
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6. doesn't that mean "price supports"? Every poor farmer must be able to compete with the US
mass production.

BTW: I agree there is going to have to be something along those lines put in place. Paying $10/day to train them to fight for us only created more sophisticated Taliban.

Another thought is if the men won't fight, why not train women? They have a motivation.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 01:38 PM
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7. Sarcasm?
We could pay market price for the opium.

Why won't the men fight? Taliban is too well funded by drug money and too well supported by the paid off farmers.
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