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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 11:35 AM
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Obama insists he is "FIERCE ADVOCATE" of business and free market
Watch out, free market.

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President Obama insisted that he and his administration have pursued a "fundamentally business-friendly" agenda and are "fierce advocates" for the free market, rejecting corporate criticism of his policies.

"The irony is that on the left we are perceived as being in the pockets of big business, and then on the business side we are perceived as being anti-business," Obama said in an interview this week with Bloomberg BusinessWeek. "You would be hard pressed to identify a piece of legislation that we have proposed out there that, net, is not good for businesses," he added. He predicted that legislation he will sign this year would cut corporate taxes by about $70 billion.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/10/AR2010021003863.html
http://www.americablog.com/
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Lothrop Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 11:37 AM
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1. That is true
The appointments and policies he has been involved with support your statement.

"We the people" did not get bailed out.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 11:39 AM
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 11:42 AM
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3. he is "FIERCE ADVOCATE" of BIG business and THE CAPTURED market. n/t
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 11:44 AM
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4. The free market shouldn't get its hopes up.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 11:45 AM
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5. I owned a mobile disco years back ... what I found out is that if I tried to
please everybody playing a little of everything ... nobody was happy and the review is bad.

If I aimed to please the majority or at most two factions, even the folks that didn't get to hear what they wanted said well at least those other folks enjoyed the music and I danced a few times and I would get a call back. That's life.

However, the lost year of capitulation cost him and the Congress immensely. It's February, when does the year start?

I predict the Congress does nothing and at election time screams we tried. To which the response will be, we don't care.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 11:49 AM
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6. Too bad there is no free market
Only oligopoly.

The barriers to entry are too great to be considered competition.
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 11:49 AM
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7. There was a time when Corporations were required to operate in a responsible manner..
Corporations (and the Bankers) were required to operate in a way that had a positive effect on the country.

Today.. in our world of Poison Chinese Drywall, lead paint in toys and poison in pet food, we see that Corporations have been allowed to run wild...with their only concern being how much cash they can milk from the system.

I'm sure Mr. Obama is Free Market and Pro Business.. it is obvious that he supports Goldman Sachs and is not going to do anything to stand up to the Corporate marauders.
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heli Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 11:50 AM
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8. Ya know, when somebody says they're a "fierce advocate" of anything...
Edited on Sat Feb-13-10 11:50 AM by heli
Watch what they do.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 12:50 PM
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16. I am, and he is.
Are you saying he's not?

This President, so far anyway, is just a buddy, buddy with big business as W.
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heli Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 12:57 PM
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19. He failed my big test on the prohibition to negotiate Medicare drug prices
That's real free market, huh?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 01:04 PM
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20. Free market is a code word.
I would suggest you read a bit about the Chicago School of Economics and Milton Freedman.

You also might want to read Shock Doctrine by Naomi Kline, it's also a movie.

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heli Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 01:09 PM
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22. Haven't read Shock Doctrine
but I know about the Chicago gang and their Nobel prizes.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 01:12 PM
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24. Then you're half way there man.
When I hear the words free market that's the first thing I think of because it was their words for a way to make the rich, richer.

That's where I'm coming form when I call Obama a free market guy.

Welcome to DU, by the way. :hi:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 11:56 AM
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9. Nothing says Free Market like forcing people to buy health insurance
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 12:46 PM
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14. Sooooo true!
Thanks for the chuckle
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 12:10 PM
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10. If Obama was really a "Fierce Advocat of the Free Market",...
...then FAILED Wall Street Bankers would be making the same bonuses as FAILED Baseball players.
"Would you like some fries with that"?
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 02:02 PM
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27. +1
What an excellent way of putting it!
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 12:42 PM
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11. Yes, being a shifty, mealy-mouthed double-dealer is GREAT for getting elected, not for holding power
Like Bill Clinton, he's done everything he possibly can to convince the corporatists that he's one of them--which he essentially IS--yet they disavow him. Damn.

People who crave mass love like this should learn a lesson: the have-nots will love you if you toss the occasional crumb, where the have-everythings won't like you unless you give them EVERYTHING. Clinton and Obama are both smart guys, but this seems to elude them.

Funny, our only actor to have been President didn't give a tinker's cuss whether people liked him or not; these guys act just like flittering starlets.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 12:44 PM
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12. "we on the left" ????
Since when is Obama "on the left?"

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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 12:45 PM
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13. What? The TV News says he's a socialist
and really, they have great hair!
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 12:47 PM
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15. Wow, he's absolutly telling the truth.
I absolutly believe Obama is a fierce advocate for business. So much so that he's at best a luke warm advocate for the People.

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 12:51 PM
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17. Obama is now Bill Clinton. nt
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 12:54 PM
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18. LOL. A moment of truth from ol' Obama.
Edited on Sat Feb-13-10 01:02 PM by tom_paine
Looks like Poppy & Jeb's little visit straightened him RIGHT out when it looked like he might be starting to forget who brung him to the dance.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/01/30/bush-is-in-town-so-he-stops-by-the-white-house/

"there was no agenda for the meeting"

BOY, do they think we're stupid. The Don of America shows up with Sonny Jeb just for tea and crumpets, the day after it starts to look like Obama might actually fight, the day after he makes Bushpublicans looks stupid on National TV?

Yeah, right.

:rofl:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 01:07 PM
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21. If "free market" means a level playing field, then I'm all for it.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 01:11 PM
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23. Just another corporatist ass-kisser.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 01:17 PM
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25. What else can be expected of an ambitious centrist politician other than the status quo?
:shrug:
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 02:01 PM
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26. Galbraith on the market:
When you come down to it, the word market is a negation. It is a word applied to the context of any transaction so long as that transaction is not dictated by the state. The word has no content of its own because it is defined simply, and for reasons of politics, by what it is not. The market is the non-state, and thus it can do everything the state can do with none of the procedures or rules or limitations. It is a cosmic and ethereal space, a disembodied decision maker – a Maxwell’s Demon – that, somehow and without effort, bal-ances and reflects the preferences of everyone participating in economic decisions. It is a magic dance hall where Supply meets Demand, flirts and courts; a magic bedroom where the fraternal twins Quantity and Price are conceived. It can be these things precisely because it is nothing at all. (Galbraith, The Predator State, 2006, pp. 19, 20)
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