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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:32 PM
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I just don't see how the Republican Party can survive
You can appeal to knuckle-heads for a while, and apparently quite a while, by making noise and blocking action, but in the end we elect officials to office to accomplish things, not to block things. Even if a few Special elections here and there are taken by Republicans and even if they are successful at taking back seats next fall during the Mid-term* in the end all it will accomplish is making them more able to do nothing. The nation may have put up with one year of a do-nothing Congress, it may even put up with two years of it, but I am sure we will not accept four years of it. The Republican strategy of blockage is long term political suicide, and in these days even two years might be thought of as 'long-term'.

* pure bullshit who's origin can be traced back to Politico which has become the origin for much of the Right's echo chamber.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:36 PM
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There's no downside...
...to appealing to the worst in people -- it's an inexhaustible resource.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:11 PM
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15. +1
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:36 PM
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1. they appeal to the darker nature of hate-- the side most of us
manage to contain, but REPUGs wear like a medal. Hate plus ignorance means REPUGs will always have a base.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:38 PM
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2. Remember that their are more ignorant people than intelligent people.
Lincoln was right when he said that you could fool some of the people all of the time.
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GMA Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:57 PM
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10. Does that apply across the board?
I've learned--though I may well not be as old as you, oh old one--that intelligence never precludes ignorance, willful or otherwise.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:40 PM
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3. Crash the economy, start a war, and rally 'round the "Daddy Party."
Am I close?

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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:44 PM
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4. Amazing how they accomplish that being so grossly outnumbered in both the House and Senate.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:44 PM
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5. They will survive because our party isnt smart enough to take advantage
..... of their weakness by promoting policies that would cement our hold on the electorate we obtained in 2006 and 2008.

That means working against the special interests in order to improve the lives of average americans, such as crafting corporate taxes and imposing tariffs to force companies to re-import manufacturing lost over the last 30 years.

Also passing a true single payer health care bill, shoring up Social Security by increasing the income limits, maybe even pushing for a national vacation time off minimum like most of Europe has.

No, our party thinks the GOP's weakness isnt a chance to cement our party with voters, they think its an opportunity to cement their business relationship with corporate america.

And they'll suffer the same fate eventually as the GOP has due to that betrayal of average americans.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:48 PM
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6. "never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups"
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perro azul Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:49 PM
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7. And never forget, half the people are below average.
shrug
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:42 PM
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26. welcome to DU
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:50 PM
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8. Wow, you seem bound & determined not to take a lesson even after the midterms.
Well, maybe 10 years hence.
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GMA Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:54 PM
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9. This reminds me of the other side. Republicans were saying almost the same
things four years ago. I think there's a lot of projecting on both sides. Each sees the darkest of the other, and it's a reflection. How sad. There are so many really good people out there on both sides.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:09 PM
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12. And why did the GOP lose power?
Because the voters saw through their bullshit and realized that they were too interested in power and corporate money to pass policies that helped average americans.

Our party should realize they are heading down the same path.
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GMA Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:10 PM
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14. Yup. Power can corrupt some of the best and the brightest.
n/t
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 02:57 PM
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11. With the dumbing down of the population, they are the party of the future
Less intelligent people reproduce more rapidly than the educated.

With the decline in education in America, the population will become less intelligent. Couple this with the increased reproduction and the right wing M$M, the GOP is set for generations.

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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:11 PM
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16. Less intelligent people are easier to manipulate.
Which means that dems could get them on their side as well.
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GMA Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:13 PM
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17. Totally disagree.
I see intelligent people manipulated a lot. Intelligence doesn't imply wisdom or even sound judgement, while lack of intelligence doesn't preclude those, either.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:15 PM
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18. Democrats don't control the airwaves
As long as everyone has access to the boob box in their living room, the message will be what the right wants it to be. The poor, stupid public will be hypnotized by the talking heads.

Orwell would be amazed.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:18 PM
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19. Corporate Media controls the airwaves. The only GOP news outlet is FOX
Anyways, they still let dems on to talk. The problem is that unlike the GOP, dems do not have a unified message and are terrible at political reality building.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:22 PM
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22. you must be kidding
tune your AM radio to 10 different stations on the way to work tomorrow. Every single one of them is GOP propaganda. And it's pretty clear that they've infected you.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:20 PM
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21. Disagree. They are the party of the past. The pendulum is slowly swinging the other way.
but they are fighting it tooth and nail.
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KILL THE WISE ONE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:10 PM
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13. they are counting on us and winning
they count on us not calling them on the lies.
they count on our apathy.
they count on a few on the fringe doing all the dirty work.

All I here form DEMS is how demoralized we are over the blue dog's actions.
IT IS A LOT EASIER TO RE-DOUBLE OUR EFFORTS NOW THEN START OVER AFTER LOOSING?
remember for every blue dog there was an even worse RE-PUB that lost the last election !
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:24 PM
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23. we have no forum to call them on their lies
they own the media.

Wake up, unless you want to continue "loosing" - whatever that means.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:19 PM
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20. They have been gaining for 20 years. And dragging the once-great nation along
how the hell do you figure they're going to suddenly have setbacks?

No media reform = no rescue for the country.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:24 PM
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24. never under estimate the enemy and remember...
never ever underestimate the stupidity of the american people when it comes to their own self interest.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 03:30 PM
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25. I truly believe we are witnessing the fall of the republican party and
have been for the last 10 years. They screwed up when they passed NAFTA with 100% of the republicans support and impeached a president for lying about getting a blow job from a fat chick.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 04:56 PM
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27. With THIS Health Care Bill, The Dems have done the impossible.
They have resurrected a DEAD Party (Republicans), and given them credibility for having OPPOSED it.
The Democrats have given America a Republican Health Care Bill without the Republicans taking ANY political risk.
ALL the Republicans have to do NOW is sit back and say, "Yep. We opposed it.
The Democrats RAISED your Premiums."


Mandates without a Public Option + subsidies for For Profit Corporations IS a Republican Health Care Plan. No amount of lipstick will cover up this pig.
LESS than 35% of ALL voters support Mandates without a Public Option.

The Democrats would have been FAR better off passing a Democratic Health Care bill.



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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 05:04 PM
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29. +1000
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 05:21 PM
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31. You have it excetly correct.
No one in their right mind should consider the republican party dead till it is cremated, along with its wooden stake through its heart and its ashes scattered.
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 06:53 PM
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32. +3 n/t
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 04:59 PM
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28. It is scary their party is even trying their current strategy. They have moved
so far right they are fascists now, corporate and normal fascism. Yet, the Corporate Media is treating them like they are still the majority and will continue to do so. The media will keep the Republicans alive, if it was about policy they would struggle for 15% support. As long as Corporate Media white washes real policy and promotes them they aren't going anywhere.
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athenasatanjesus Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-17-10 05:14 PM
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30. They don't need to survive
As long as corporate america can maintain it's imbalanced control over the worlds resources it doesn't matter,and whats going to happen anytime soon to create an actual balance of power even if the republicans fade off the face of the earth
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