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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:47 PM
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Left & Right Agree: Health Care Mandates Are the Road to Neofeudalism - Jane Hamsher/HuffPo
Left & Right Agree: Health Care Mandates Are the Road to Neofeudalism
Jane Hamsher
Founder, FireDogLake.com
Posted: December 30, 2009 02:03 PM

<snip>

There is tremendous fear rising on both the right and the left that the announced intention of Congress -- to force every American to pay tribute to private corporations, with no government alternative -- sets a dangerous and frightening precedent with implications far outside the scope of health care.

If the health care bill written by the Senate is passed, middle-class Americans will be mandated to pay almost as much to private insurance companies as they do to the federal government in taxes for insurance they can't afford, with the IRS acting as a collection agency for penalties of 2% of their annual income if they refuse to comply.

Keith Olbermann has said he will go to jail before doing so.

But this left-right alliance against corporatism isn't new. Many recent measures have been bringing liberal progressives and conservative libertarians together to join forces in opposition:


* Democrat Alan Grayson worked successfully this year with Republican Ron Paul to pass legislation to audit the Federal Reserve, with 317 cosponsors as diverse as Dennis Kucinich and Michelle Bachmann.

* On December 3, the liberal Campaign for America's Future wrote a letter to the Senate opposing the reconfirmation of Federal Reserve chief Ben Bernanke until such an audit has been conducted. The letter was signed by James Galbraith, Robert Weisman, Chris Bowers and myself on the left, and Grover Norquist, Phillis Schlafly, and Larry Greenley on the right. Financial blogger Tyler Durden and young organizer Tiffiniy Cheng joined us.

* Also on December 3, conservative Jim Bunning joined liberal Bernie Sanders in placing a hold on the Bernanke nomination until the Fed had been audited.

* On December 15, CAF again sent a letter to the Senate Banking Committee, asking them to delay the vote on the Bernanke confirmation until Audit the Fed received a stand alone vote in the Senate. It was signed by Matt Kibbe of Freedomworks, John Tate of the Campaign for Liberty, and Grover Norquist on the right, and David Swanson of AfterDowiningStreet, Dean Baker and Robert Borosage on the left.

* On December 21, a letter was written opposing the mandate in the health care bill. It was signed by Bob Fertik of Democrats.com, Howie Klein of DownWithTyranny, Brad Friedman of Velvet Revolution, Tim Carpenter of Progressive Democrats of America on the left and Grover Norquist, Jim Martin of 60 Plus Association, Duane Parde of the National Taxpayers Union on the right.

* On December 23, Grover Norquist and I sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder calling for an investigation into Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel's conflicts of interest before the White House could lift the cap on the commitment to them from $400 billion to $800 billion with no Inspector General in place.



The individuals on both sides of the political spectrum who signed these letters agree on very little, but they do share both a tremendous concern for the corporatist control of government that politicians in both parties seem hell-bent on achieving with this health care bill.

We've covered the health care reform process heavily on Firedoglake, and the hypocrisy of the entire process has been staggering to watch...

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Much Much More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/left-right-agree-health-c_b_407335.html

:shrug:

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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:51 PM
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1. K&R
Excellent article
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:52 PM
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2. You don't have to be left or right to like or not like something
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 09:54 PM by mmonk
regarding health insurance.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:52 PM
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3. No-SOME on the left and the right agree.
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 09:55 PM by SemiCharmedQuark
Sanders, Grayson, Feingold, Krugman and Harkin certainly aren't getting on the teabagger wagon. And I bet they wouldn't be caught dead signing on to anything to do with Grover Norquist.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:09 PM
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13. +1
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:54 PM
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4. Healthcare mandates to a private industry with no public option or rigorous regulation
and price controls is an abomination and I don't care who says it, what their political persuasion is, who they write for, what their history is - IT IS WRONG.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:55 PM
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5. Exactly !!!
:applause::applause:

:kick:
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 09:58 PM
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6. spot on, that
:applause:
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:00 PM
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7. The insurance industry needs the mandate to survive the migration of baby boomers to medicare
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 10:01 PM by ipaint
Over 2 decades beginning in 2011 they will lose 170 million customers and the birth rate doesn't come close to replacing them.

They need our taxpayer money to save their bloated for profit business as it exists today.

How stupid are we (collective) to oblige.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:03 PM
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8. Zeke and buddies will still try to help them out when they attempt to
privatize Medicare into a voucher program to the privates when they tell us on some Friday evening that Medicare will collapse by the following Tuesday unless they dissolve it, sell off it parts and issue the vouchers.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:03 PM
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9. Great thread, great comments. MANY people are NOT STUPID.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:05 PM
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11. +1
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:48 PM
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16. You also have to wonder why the amount that is being planned on as
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 10:48 PM by truedelphi
Penalties on those who don't purchase the mandated insurance, that is, one hundred and sixty six billion bucks is so close to the amount that is needed for the Two Illegal Wars - one hundred and sixty eight billion bucks!
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:04 PM
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10. The funny thing is I know 3 Republicans who when I explained
what single payer was started supporting it.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:06 PM
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12. Ooh, Jane Hamsher on HuffPo.
And the Flying Monkey Center will descend in 3... 2... 1...

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:11 PM
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14. K&R. The Mandate is FASCISM.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:11 PM
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15. K&R
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