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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:25 AM
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Article -- A simple way to help fix the economy -- "Move Your Money"
Move Your Money
Arianna Huffington and Rob Johnson

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/move-your-money-a-new-yea_b_406022.html

Last week, over a pre-Christmas dinner, the two of us, along with political strategist Alexis McGill, filmmaker/author Eugene Jarecki, and Nick Penniman of the HuffPost Investigative Fund, began talking about the huge, growing chasm between the fortunes of Wall Street banks and Main Street banks, and started discussing what concrete steps individuals could take to help create a better financial system. Before long, the conversation turned practical, and with some help from friends in the world of bank analysis, a video and website were produced devoted to a simple idea: Move Your Money.

The big banks on Wall Street, propped up by taxpayer money and government guarantees, have had a record year, making record profits while returning to the highly leveraged activities that brought our economy to the brink of disaster. In a slap in the face to taxpayers, they have also cut back on the money they are lending, even though the need to get credit flowing again was one of the main points used in selling the public the bank bailout. But since April, the Big Four banks -- JP Morgan/Chase, Citibank, Bank of America, and Wells Fargo -- all of which took billions in taxpayer money, have cut lending to businesses by $100 billion.

Meanwhile, America's Main Street community banks -- the vast majority of which avoided the banquet of greed and corruption that created the toxic economic swamp we are still fighting to get ourselves out of -- are struggling. Many of them have closed down (or been taken over by the FDIC) over the last 12 months. The government policy of protecting the Too Big and Politically Connected to Fail is badly hurting the small banks, which are having a much harder time competing in the financial marketplace. As a result, a system which was already dangerously concentrated at the top has only become more so.....

...And as we contrasted that with the efforts of local banks to show that you can both be profitable and have a positive impact on the community, an idea took hold: why don't we take our money out of these big banks and put them into community banks? And what, we asked ourselves, would happen if lots of people around America decided to do the same thing? Our money has been used to make the system worse -- what if we used it to make the system better?


.....The idea is simple: If enough people who have money in one of the big four banks move it into smaller, more local, more traditional community banks, then collectively we, the people, will have taken a big step toward re-rigging the financial system so it becomes again the productive, stable engine for growth it's meant to be. It's neither Left nor Right -- it's populism at its best. Consider it a withdrawal tax on the big banks for the negative service they provide by consistently ignoring the public interest. It's time for Americans to move their money out of these reckless behemoths. And you don't have to worry, there is zero risk: deposit insurance is just as good at small banks -- and unlike the big banks they don't provide the toxic dividend of derivatives trading in a heads-they-win, tails-we-lose fashion.

Think of the message it will send to Wall Street -- and to the White House. That we have had enough of the high-flying, no-limits-casino banking culture that continues to dominate Wall Street and Capitol Hill. That we won't wait on Washington to act, because we know that Washington has, in fact, been a part of the problem from the start. We simply can't count on Congress to fix things. We have to do it ourselves -- and the big banks are the core of the problem. We need to return to the stable, reliable, people-oriented approach of America's community banks.


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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:27 AM
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1. I like this idea. I'm getting divorced and will be opening a new account very soon
and will do just that.

k/r
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:44 AM
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4. Youd be better off at a credit union
Mine rebates me dividends at the end of the year. I havent had an increase in credit card fees nor rates. They made me get a line of credit to protect me from overdrafts. So smart!

I guess you can go to a community bank to help a struggling entity but i would rather find a nice stable credit union who wont be looking to generate more revenue to survive.
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StarfarerBill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:58 AM
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6. Ditto. +1
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:33 AM
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11. Credit Union or Community Bank -- as long as it's community-based
Edited on Wed Dec-30-09 11:33 AM by Armstead
I'm in a Credit Union.

The point is to get money out of those big monsters and put it back into community-based financial institutions
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nykym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:39 AM
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2. I have aleways thought that
if we could do this nation wide, the effects of moving our money either in or out of the too big to fail banking system would send an economic message very clearly. As things are now this may be one tool that can be utilized to effect change. Yes, I know coordinating and pulling it off is a monumental task but as an idea it is interesting. I for one will consider moving my money out of Chase and into a local bank, I like the idea.
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orwell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:43 AM
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3. We did this 10 years ago...
...don't bitch, switch!

Local banks/credit unions are better!
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 10:53 AM
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5. Wal-Mart started out small too
If more people put more money into the smaller banks, they will eventually become bigger banks.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:17 AM
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9. And your point would be?
At least it would get some of the money out of the current crop of bad actors.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:09 AM
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7. I moved mine into a credit union earlier this year.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:12 AM
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8. Credit unions rock!
I've never seen why a person would go anywhere else if one was available.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:39 AM
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13. I agree by a factor of exactly one half
First off all of our banking is done through our Credit Union and I feel lucky that because of our relationship my son is also able to use it even though he is not employed by one of he sponsoring organizations.

If I need a loan to buy just about anything they will probably lend me the money to buy it. So that's half the deal. Unfortunately if I want to buy a house, well, they aren't in the mortgage game, at least my CU isn't. So that's the half they're missing.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:48 AM
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15. Many CU's do provide financing for anything
Where I livem the credit union is the largest financial institution in the region -- doing mortgages, commercial finance, everything.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:26 AM
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10. K&R
not that I have any money to move.. :shrug:
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:34 AM
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12. I think the argument fails
I don't think the argument that moving funds to community banks will empower them to do good things while removing the fuel that fires speculative investment by the big banks. The reason is that the big banks do not need deposits to make loans to their preferred and in fact very large customers. The Fed, in its near infinite wisdom, allows these banks to create lendable money out of thin air. So the fact that we have money deposited with them or not is simply immaterial.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:46 AM
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14. Not the sole answer -- But every bit helps
And if larger "preferred customers" like businesses and organizations also started shifting, it would eventually have an impact.

It's all cumulative -- Enough pebbles create ripples and eventually bigger waves
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Black-Eyed Susan Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 03:36 PM
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21. Agree
This is a silly notion that somehow a few thousand (or even million) citizens moving their money to smaller banks is going to even dent the world of global finance. I wonder how much wine they had before that idea started sounding good. Probably expensive wine at that.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 11:49 AM
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16. It most likely will not hurt them but it will send a message.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-30-09 04:42 PM
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17. Messages are good, and it wil, help community banks
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 11:10 AM
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18. Of the 130+ banks that have failed/closed, most of them were community banks
so no thanks.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-31-09 06:03 PM
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19. K!
:kick:

NGU.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-01-10 03:32 PM
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20. .
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