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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:01 AM
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When Obama said he thought the public option was best, was he flat out lying?
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WonderGrunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:05 AM
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1. Not at all. He just knew that there wasn't enough votes to get it.
That doesn't mean he doesn't think it's the best option.
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:05 AM
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2. No He knew he could not get it through the Senate.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:06 AM
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3. Probably
he's a politician and his loyalty is not to those who voted for him.
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zaj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:17 AM
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5. He can't force Lieberman to agree to a public option.
Nothing he can do. Nothing.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:31 AM
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8. He could have pushed harder
Or sent his little pit bull, Rahm, over to the Hill to whip the Blue Dogs and DLC jerks into shape.

Obama is the one who said we needed a public option to "keep them honest". Let's not pretend he ever really intended to do anything but sell us out to the insurance companies. Rahm would not be his chief of staff if Obama gave a damn about the people who elected him.


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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:15 AM
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4. That kind of stuff makes more sense when you're on the campaign trail asking people to vote for you
At the point when the legislation is forming it doesn't make sense.

Maybe you could explain what the rationale would be behind that move.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:18 AM
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6. His words say no, he just couldnt deliver it
His actions say yes, he never intended to put any effort into getting it.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:23 AM
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7. it was "just rhetoric"
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:45 AM
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9. yes, I believe he was. since he didn't push for it and talk it up and since
he undercut everyone who did, yes, he lied.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 01:48 AM
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10. No. What he thinks is best and what he can facilitate happening can and are often different
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 09:07 PM
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11. Did he ever really say it was "best"?
I can't imagine Obama saying anything that definitive. He's always careful to leave lots of wiggle room in his statements. How else can he be all things to all people?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-21-09 10:10 PM
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12. No. My guess he either has been persuaded otherwise
Or just realizes it can't go through.
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