Does anyone know exactly where these "Climate Gate" emails are?

[Maraya1969]

I searched and all I got were people telling other people what was in them. I want to look at them.

I looked at this site called A Brief summary of climate gate

http://www.verumserum.com/?p=10451

And they had statement like this:

"Michael Mann discusses how to destroy a journal that has published skeptic papers.(1047388489)"

What is that number for? And where are the emails??????

[notesdev]

1. someone made a website for easy reference

http://www.eastangliaemails.com/index.php

Searchable and everything

[robdogbucky]

2. Anyone here been through them?

Is there anything pertaining to the arctic sea ice thickness?

'Permanent' Arctic ice vanishing
Satellite images misled shocked scientists

WINNIPEG–One of Canada's top northern researchers says the permanent Arctic sea ice that is home to the world's polar bears and usually survives the summer has all but disappeared.

Experts around the world believed the ice was recovering because satellite images showed it expanding. But David Barber says the thick, multi-year frozen sheets crucial to the northern ecosystem have been replaced by thin "rotten" ice that can't support weight of the bears. "It caught us all by surprise because we were expecting there to be multi-year sea ice. The whole world thought it was multi-year sea ice," said Barber, who just returned from an expedition to the Beaufort Sea.

"Unfortunately, what we found was that the multi-year (ice) has all but disappeared. What's left is this remnant, rotten ice."

Permanent ice, which is normally up to 10 metres thick, was easily pierced by the research ship, said Barber, who holds the Canada research chair in Arctic science at the University of Manitoba.


http://www.thestar.com/news/sciencetech/environment/article/732009---permanent-arctic-ice-vanishing

tick tock

[notesdev]

3. I have

and they explain quite well why the drum of climate hysteria has been beaten so loudly lately.

I can only imagine the outcry if stuff like this came out of, say, the Bush administration. Oil companies bad, carbon trading companies good, apparently.

[Maraya1969]

4. They are twisting things up. And making things up as far as I can tell.

http://www.verumserum.com/?p=10451


The first line at "A brief summary of climate gate"



Michael Mann discusses how to destroy a journal that has published sceptic papers.(1047388489)

I looked under that number and they were talking about how someone hacked into the peer review process and got non-peer reviewed papers printed in a peer reviewed journal. They take about how to get rid of the hackers, (ignore them was the gist of it). Nothing about destroying a "skeptics paper"

http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=295&filename=1047388489.txt

I think this climate gate is the hoax. That was my first thought when I heard about it. And of course they are going to twist things around. That is what they always do!


Here is the page that lists all the emails:

http://www.eastangliaemails.com/index.php

[robdogbucky]

5. You mean

like the outrage when stuff like this came out in the afore-mentioned previous admin?

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/08/politics/08climate.ht...

In handwritten notes on drafts of several reports issued in 2002 and 2003, the official, Philip A. Cooney, removed or adjusted descriptions of climate research that government scientists and their supervisors, including some senior Bush administration officials, had already approved. In many cases, the changes appeared in the final reports.

The dozens of changes, while sometimes as subtle as the insertion of the phrase "significant and fundamental" before the word "uncertainties," tend to produce an air of doubt about findings that most climate experts say are robust.

Mr. Cooney is chief of staff for the White House Council on Environmental Quality, the office that helps devise and promote administration policies on environmental issues.

Before going to the White House in 2001, he was the "climate team leader" and a lobbyist at the American Petroleum Institute, the largest trade group representing the interests of the oil industry. A lawyer with a bachelor's degree in economics, he has no scientific training.

Any response to the news article I posted?

How 'bout this other latest one?

Warming will 'wipe out billions'
Published Date: 29 November 2009
By Jenny Fyall

MOST of the world's population will be wiped out if political leaders fail to agree a method of stopping current rates of global warming, one of the UK's most senior climate scientists has warned.

Snip

Professor Kevin Anderson, director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change, believes only around 10 per cent of the planet's population – around half a billion people – will survive if global temperatures rise by 4C.

Anderson's warning comes just eight days before global leaders meet in Copenhagen for the most crucial talks on climate change reversal since the Rio summit in 1992. Current Met Office projections reveal that the lack of action in the intervening 17 years – in which emissions of climate changing gases such as carbon dioxide have soared – has set the world on a path towards potential 4C rises as early as 2060, and 6C rises by the end of the century.
http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/Warming-will-39wipe-out-billions39.5867379.jp


Aren't you lost? I think the board you are looking for is there in Freeperville, right outside of Hannitytown, down the road from Limbaugh Valley.


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