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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 09:30 AM
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RIGHT WING Extremists Should Be Barred From Military
From Newsone:


After the recent Fort Hood shootings, right wing pundits are calling for Muslims in the military to be investigated and in some cases barred from the military. While we’re at it we should investigate right wing white extremists too, as they cause a threat to our country.


What is ironic is that while right wing pundits attack Islam as a cause for the horrific massacre, they continue to fuel the flames for right wing terrorists who have massacres of their own.


For years, right wing, white supremacist extremists have been infiltrating the military. Two of the most famous right wing military veterans, Terry Nichols and Timothy McVeigh, were responsible for the biggest terrorist attack in the United States previous to 9/11, killing 168 people including small 19 children in an attack on the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City.


It is interesting that with Glenn Beck and the Tea Party movement, the right wing, who are now so concerned with Islamic extremists in the military, are promoting the same ideals that the extremist terrorist duo of Nichols and McVeigh were fueled by.


Like many from the right, McVeigh was once a registered Republican member of the NRA and distributed gun rights literature. Like many people in the Tea Party movement, McVeigh was against taxes and big government. The following quotes attributed to McVeigh could easily have come from someone in the Tea Party movement.




Taxes are a joke. Regardless of what a political candidate “promises,” they will increase. More taxes are always the answer to government mismanagement. They mess up. We suffer. Taxes are reaching cataclysmic levels, with no slowdown in sight… Is a Civil War Imminent? Do we have to shed blood to reform the current system? I hope it doesn’t come to that. But it might. Source.


Go ahead, take everything I own; take my dignity. Feel good as you grow fat and rich at my expense; sucking my tax dollars and property. Source.




The right wing ranting about socialist governments that we see from Fox News, Glenn Beck and teabaggers was also part of McVeigh’s rhetoric.




I believe we are slowly turning into a socialist government. The government is continually growing bigger and more powerful and the people need to prepare to defend themselves against government control. Source


I know in my heart that I am right in my struggle, Steve. I have come to peace with myself, my God and my cause. Blood will flow in the streets, Steve. Good vs. Evil. Free Men vs. Socialist Wannabe Slaves. Pray it is not your blood, my friend. Source




McVeigh was motivated by the same factors that are motivating the Fox news endorsed Tea Party movement: racism, a desire for guns, and a hatred for taxes and anything they perceive as socialism.


So how as the right responded to Timothy McVeigh? Ann Coultier said:



My only regret with Timothy McVeight is he did not go to the New York Times building. Source




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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 09:37 AM
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1. So will you volunteer to serve in their place?
Edited on Thu Nov-12-09 09:38 AM by stray cat
or better yet we need to campaign to re-instate the draft.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 09:44 AM
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3. Non sequitur much? n/t
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 09:47 AM
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4. Are you justifying this hate mindset? A re-requisite to being a warrior doesn't mean you need hatred
Edited on Thu Nov-12-09 09:49 AM by Segami
running through your veins.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 09:43 AM
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2. Extremists of any kind should be barred.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 09:51 AM
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5. Then more will join militia groups.
The thing that gets me is they rant about the government and wish to overthrow it. If they'd step back from their blind rage for just a minute they'd realize it's the banks and corporations who control that evil empire in DC. All the more reason why I wonder why instead of bombing a federal building they didn't go after some large bank?
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 10:04 AM
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6. Thats easy to answer
because only government, not banks or corps, can "legally" force you to do something you do not wish to do and only government can "legally" take your money against your will.

There is some really great reading about these groups on the SPLC websites.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-12-09 10:05 AM
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7. Extremism and hate is already not tolerated by the military
It's bad for unit cohesion. A white supremacist will learn to live with, trust, and be respectful to persons of all nationalities and races, to do any less is to risk life and limb for that individual's ignorance. They will behave according to the code, or they will find themselves on the street (if lucky) or in jail.

In my experience, racism (particularly open racism) is not tolerated at all. Then again, you may find places where the leadership is also racist, and that must be dealt with. If we weren't wasting the lives of these young men and women in foreign nations, basically to take those foreign nations' resources, we would be much more capable of enforcing the existing code.

I do believe there are a few high-ranking officers (cols and gens) who embrace a kind of racist, hyper-religious world view, and pass it along. They need to take taken out, in my opinion, as inciting race-hatred and religious persecution on that kind of official level is in violation of the UCMJ, IIRC - not to mention it violates the Constitution.
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