Donate to DU!
Democratic Underground Latest Threads
Latest
Greatest Threads
Greatest
Lobby
Lobby
Journals
Journals
Search
Search
Options
Options
Help
Help
Login
Login
Google

I'm uninsured, would almost certainly qualify for a subsidy and think Kucinich is right.. Flame Away

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
First thread | Last thread
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 05:35 AM
Original message
I'm uninsured, would almost certainly qualify for a subsidy and think Kucinich is right.. Flame Away
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 05:38 AM by Fumesucker
I'm well nigh sixty, am uninsured, have preexisting conditions, have been unemployed long enough that I'm on food stamps, have run out of unemployment benefits and am selling my blood plasma to get a few dollars.

And I think Kucinich is right, mandated private insurance is a vile idea and IMO unconstitutional.

There are some things more important to me than my own personal well being, not sending people to prison because they are poor is one of those things that I consider more important.

Debtors prisons went out of style a long time ago, I don't want to see them come back and that's what mandated private insurance will effectively do.

I invite your flames, I have my Nomex underoos on.

Edited due to poster's caffeine deficiency..



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
   Replies to this thread
   No flames from me  AllentownJake   Nov-08-09 05:38 AM   #1 
   Sometimes I think Dennis is the only one in Congress  DemBones DemBones   Nov-08-09 05:41 AM   #2 
   Well the rest are all sellouts to corporations.  alarimer   Nov-08-09 09:20 AM   #17 
   he is right, and so are you  Skittles   Nov-08-09 05:42 AM   #3 
   Since when do you speak for all who are uninsured?  BzaDem   Nov-08-09 05:44 AM   #4 
   wow tax increase WTF i thought the promise was no tax increases  vadawg   Nov-08-09 05:47 AM   #6 
   Yeah, I thought that too. Guess Obama was just joking? Or was he lying?  SammyWinstonJack   Nov-09-09 12:33 PM   #26 
   Yeah, what vadawg said +1. How is it that these words just slide  Obamanaut   Nov-08-09 09:00 AM   #14 
   Your concern is noted  thunder rising   Nov-08-09 05:45 AM   #5 
   so is your lack of concern  Skittles   Nov-08-09 05:48 AM   #7 
      +1  SammyWinstonJack   Nov-09-09 12:33 PM   #27 
   knr  Mari333   Nov-08-09 05:49 AM   #8 
   I pay for only catastrophic care  Mari333   Nov-08-09 05:54 AM   #9 
   when you are drowning...  cleveramerican   Nov-08-09 06:04 AM   #10 
   This ain't just about you........  FrenchieCat   Nov-08-09 06:05 AM   #11 
   No flames from me.  Altoid_Cyclist   Nov-08-09 08:13 AM   #12 
   We'll talk after I get my hip replaced and can function normally again.  Vinca   Nov-08-09 08:18 AM   #13 
   umemployed, uninsured here also. and this bill is a steaming pile.  KG   Nov-08-09 09:06 AM   #15 
   Don't you qualify for Medicaid?  Motown_Johnny   Nov-08-09 09:13 AM   #16 
   Sending people to prison is right up there with death panels  Merlot   Nov-08-09 11:39 PM   #18 
   no flames from me, either. you speak the truth.  niyad   Nov-09-09 12:12 PM   #19 
   You sure as HELL don't speak for ME asshole!  TZ   Nov-09-09 12:14 PM   #20 
   redacted. n/t  rucky   Nov-09-09 12:16 PM   #23 
   Sending people to prison? Thank you Sarah Palin  geek tragedy   Nov-09-09 12:15 PM   #21 
   Oh, man, the sicko fascist greedheads in the US would LOVE a return of debtor's prisons  Echo In Light   Nov-09-09 12:16 PM   #22 
   lol... prison... and you got 40 recs for that steaming pile.  redqueen   Nov-09-09 12:20 PM   #24 
   yeah, good luck with that. So, are the taxpayers paying for your medical care now??  progressivebydesign   Nov-09-09 12:23 PM   #25 
 
AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 05:38 AM
Response to Original message
1. No flames from me
However I'm sure you are going to be called selfish and a purist for finding this idea disgusting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 05:41 AM
Response to Original message
2. Sometimes I think Dennis is the only one in Congress

with a functioning brain and common sense.

I am sorry things are so rough for you. Maybe you can get SSDI, if your preexisting conditions prevent you from working fulltime. It doesn't pay much but it's better then nothing and you have been paying into Social Security all the years you worked.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alarimer (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 09:20 AM
Response to Reply #2
17. Well the rest are all sellouts to corporations.
It's why I am not a member of any party anymore; two sides to the same shitty coin.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Nov-08-09 05:42 AM
Response to Original message
3. he is right, and so are you
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 05:44 AM
Response to Original message
4. Since when do you speak for all who are uninsured?
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 05:46 AM by BzaDem
Who are you to tell other uninsured people that it is OK that they get sick and go bankrupt and die, since you are so concerned about the mandate?

The Debtors prison bullshit is nothing more than a right wing talking point. The House bill does not mandate anything unless you can actually afford it. The mandate is nothing more than a tax increase and then a tax credit for those who buy health insurance (or can't afford it). I don't see any other posts where you liken differential tax treatment to debtors prisons. Your argument is bullshit.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
vadawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 05:47 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. wow tax increase WTF i thought the promise was no tax increases
if you made less than $250,000,
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Nov-09-09 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #6
26. Yeah, I thought that too. Guess Obama was just joking? Or was he lying?
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Nov-08-09 09:00 AM
Response to Reply #4
14. Yeah, what vadawg said +1. How is it that these words just slide
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 09:10 AM by Obamanaut
so easily across the keyboard "The mandate is nothing more than a tax increase..." when we were told all the way to Nov last year that there would not be one for incomes under that magic number.

Is the change to believe in just simply a different set of lips that these words so glibly pass? "Watch my lips, no new taxes"?

missed a spelling error.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
thunder rising (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 05:45 AM
Response to Original message
5. Your concern is noted
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Nov-08-09 05:48 AM
Response to Reply #5
7. so is your lack of concern
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Nov-09-09 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #7
27. +1
:thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 05:49 AM
Response to Original message
8. knr
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 05:54 AM
Response to Original message
9. I pay for only catastrophic care
and thats all I intend to pay for til Medicare is available to me in a few yrs. Just keeping my fingers crossed. They had better not expect me to pay for anything more. fuck that. they can send hordes of us to prison, we wont be alone at least, there are plenty of us out there who wont pay and cannot pay extra taxes for this if we cannot afford their mandate. they can take mandates and stick them where the sun doesnt shine.
but oh they have billions to send to 2 insane occupations and billions to bail out their friends.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 06:04 AM
Response to Original message
10. when you are drowning...
do you care WHO throws you a life preserver?
The wise man grabs it and lives.
The fool waits for a better fitting one thrown by a less objectionable by-stander.
And dies waiting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 06:05 AM
Response to Original message
11. This ain't just about you........
Others that would qualify and who's life would be made better,
count as much as you do.....

and oh, yeah....Dennis has health Insurance, so it wasn't supposed to be about him either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Altoid_Cyclist Donating Member (562 posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 08:13 AM
Response to Original message
12. No flames from me.
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 08:26 AM by Altoid_Cyclist
Instead, I'm sending best wishes that things turn around for you. As a previous poster stated, SSD is one option. However, I've been waiting for exactly a year already for my appeal hearing to be scheduled.

The SSD process problem is like everything else in this country, they're more than happy to deduct it from every paycheck you receive during your life. However, when you ask for what's rightfully yours, it's take a number and we'll call you after you're dead.

I'm in a lot better position than you since my wife is still working and I'm on her insurance plan, but the other things are pretty much what I'm going through so I can empathise with the frustration that you're experiencing.

SS seems to think that it's easy to get a job when you're in your 50's, have serious health problems and the only jobs available are ones that you're unable to perform because of the health problems.

Remain strong and keep the Nomex handy just in case. :thumbsup:

Handy link in case you do have any SSDI questions:

http://www.disabilitysecrets.com /


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Sun Nov-08-09 08:18 AM
Response to Original message
13. We'll talk after I get my hip replaced and can function normally again.
I love Kucinich and agree with him completely, but if we wait for exactly what we want, it's never going to happen. If we can get a foot in the door, we can change the system over time. As for sending people to prison, it's never going to happen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KG (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 09:06 AM
Response to Original message
15. umemployed, uninsured here also. and this bill is a steaming pile.
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 09:07 AM by KG
for those that feel this is some 'great achievement', well that bar must be set so low, it's laying in the mud.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 09:13 AM
Response to Original message
16. Don't you qualify for Medicaid?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Merlot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov-08-09 11:39 PM
Response to Original message
18. Sending people to prison is right up there with death panels
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Nov-09-09 12:12 PM
Response to Original message
19. no flames from me, either. you speak the truth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-09-09 12:14 PM
Response to Original message
20. You sure as HELL don't speak for ME asshole!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
I AM NO BODYS GODDAMN POLITICAL FOOTBALL! He's no better than Liebermann.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Donate to DU! Mon Nov-09-09 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #20
23. redacted. n/t
Edited on Mon Nov-09-09 12:18 PM by rucky
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-09-09 12:15 PM
Response to Original message
21. Sending people to prison? Thank you Sarah Palin
for repeating rightwing chain email rumors here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-09-09 12:16 PM
Response to Original message
22. Oh, man, the sicko fascist greedheads in the US would LOVE a return of debtor's prisons
Then $ could be made on their slave labor, the same motivation behind locking away unprecedented numbers of fist offense, non-violent pot smokers. Sick, sick country.

Rec if I could
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-09-09 12:20 PM
Response to Original message
24. lol... prison... and you got 40 recs for that steaming pile.
*sigh*
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
progressivebydesign (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Nov-09-09 12:23 PM
Response to Original message
25. yeah, good luck with that. So, are the taxpayers paying for your medical care now??
Just curious.. because at some point you are getting medical care, and obviously you have no interest in paying for it.

Perhaps when you get really sick, Saint Dennis the Irrelevant can come to your house and pray over you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat Nov 21st 2009, 05:56 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals  |  Links  |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2009 Democratic Underground, LLC