Fuck it Obama is the man

[maxpower]

He is in a no win situation. I believe in him, I supported him in every way. I admit as a white liberal, I felt unimaginable pride when Barack Obama was elected. I have been a little hard on him, but that is because I put so much into his campaign. He understands the game he has to play, politics suck. He is smarter than those who underestimate him. He will get the job done. Fuck the obstructionists in congress, he will prevail. We have to stand behind him, slings and arrows have been cast his way.

I think Mr. Obama is a whole lot smarter than these self proclaimed political geniuses. Look at the the opposition, they are splintering as we speak. Let's back Mr. Obama and trust he is smarter than Rove and his ilk. Say what you want about Rahm, he gets the job done. We are in a new era of politics and I think Obama is keenly aware of this. Let's keep the faith, Barack Obama is the one guy who relates to us all. Agree or disagree, I welcome all responses. Love and positive vibes to my fellow DU friends and enemies.


Peace,
Max

[cliffordu]

1. I wonder what kind of complete ass would unrec this post.

[Swamp Rat]

5. I just countered the unrec with a rec

:D :hi:

[FightingIrish]

6. There must be a glitch, Swampy.

There can't possibly be that many snot-nosed whiney-assed babies on DU.

[Swamp Rat]

7. Naw!

:D

[maxpower]

13. Never

Shudder the thought.


Peace,
Max

[Bobbie Jo]

12. Make that 2.

[maxpower]

17. I don't care about that

Just read the post and give an honest opinion.


Peace,
Max

[cliffordu]

27. That's why you are my good friend, Swamp Rat

You're the best.....

:patriot:

[maxpower]

31. Agreed

Swamprat is one of the good ones.

Peace,
Max

[timeforpeace]

2. It's only been a year since he was elected. He said himself he was just getting started. Keep hope

alive.

[imdjh]

3. My problem with that, as many have pointed out, is that he never actually promised me...

... what I want.

[progressivebydesign]

20. then perhaps you should run for office... to get what you really want. n/t

[imdjh]

23. I didn't say that he shouldn't or that it wasn't a reasonable expectation on my part...

.... simply that he has a slimy path of retreat if he's ever taken to task for not producing Single Payer and gay rights.

[maxpower]

37. Unfortunately politics is politics

Especially the house, they have to be re-elected every two years. They are constantly on the stump. Public finance of campaigns is the answer IMHO. Obama cannot over reach at this point. He is getting much done, but Washington being what is is he is like Sisyphus rolling the stone up the hill.


Peace,
Max

[maxpower]

34. He wouldn't have got elected

If he fulfilled all the wishes of the left. I think he knows what he is doing. He will get shit done. He understand those rat fuck republicans, he like to toy with them like a cat and a mouse. This is just another example of the intelligence of Democrat presidents and the empty suits the thugs put up. Mt 2 cents.

Peace,
Max

[maxpower]

54. Me neither

Total freedom and legal drugs. But the other stuff was pretty good. Unless we have walked in his shoes we cannot or should not judge.



Peace,
Max

[FightingIrish]

4. That was weird

I rec'd this OP and the rec was gone before it even registered. We are truly into the silly season here at DU.

[maxpower]

9. I am not worried about rec's just read the message pleae.

I don't care. I love Obama, he is the first president I can relate to. Besides my wedding and the birth of my child, voting and ensuring Obama is president is one of the greatest moments in my life. Fuck racism, anti-semitism and the fuckers who automatically un-rec posts. I don't care. The republicans have to deal with the fact that they are getting older, while the prog/dems are getting younger. As the sage Bob Dylan said "get out of the way if you can't lend a hand...for the times are a'changing." Dylan is the man (sorry just my editorial comment). One last point, get rid of Harry Reid and put Durbin is his place, he has been my senator for years and he will do us proud. He is a good and decent man, he learned from the best Paul Simon.


Peace and much love,
Max

[gratefultobelib]

16. I like the way you think!!

[maxpower]

29. Thanks

We are the majority. Remember that.

Peace,
Max

[butterfly77]

61. They think we don't know that...

and I guess we are suppose to forget that a lot of them are racists and they prove it everyday.

They really think that we are suppose to believe if we or some of these ignorant people will vote against for them just because they try to pretend that they are for all people..

[Ryano42]

8. Fookin' A Bubba!

I remember the helplessness I felt in 2003...the country marching enexorably towards war and a 1000 year Reich of Busco...I thought anything...any glimmer of HOPE and I would be shocked.

What a difference 5 years makes!

It will take many many years to turn this around but it will we have no other way...and for those who cannot wait you need to look upon your history; no real change has ever happened in 9 months.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N3WJXK2PAM

Quit wringing your hands and grab a rope...and help pull us out of the ditch that a drunken fratboy drove us into!

:patriot:

[FightingIrish]

11. I read the message and I agree with you completely.

In my lifetime we have had one other president I had complete faith in. We couldn't keep him alive for three years in the White House. Some people wouldn't know a transfomrative president if he bit them on the ass.

[gblady]

14. A-men!

[maxpower]

22. Thank you

I was not born until 1969, but I feel what you are saying. Thank you.



Peace,
Max

[maxpower]

15. History is on our side

The Dems are constantly cleaning up after those slash and burn republicans. They then get elected and fuck it all up. The greedy 1% wants more and more. Bummer.

Peace,
Max

[Greyhound]

57. FYI, FDR got The New Deal passed on March 4th, 1933, that's about 6 weeks after

assuming his office. In his first 100 days we got the banking and monetary, agricultural, and the repeal of prohibition.

[maxpower]

64. That was after 2 and a half years of a depression

Things are a little different now. The media is the main difference. Point well taken though.


Peace,
Max

[NoSheep]

10. I just watched the documentary about his campaign on HBO. He's still the smartest

guy in the room.

[maxpower]

25. Agreed he is one smart guy

I feel, like with Clinton, he is too smart for the job. They will destroy him, I hope they learned from what he big dog had to deal with.



Peace,
Max

[Engineer4Obama]

18. You just watched the documentary too didn't you?

I've got to quit letting the internets and the media influence me.

[maxpower]

26. I saw the end

I am watching a documentary on Helen Thomas, and American Icon.


Peace,
Max

[NoSheep]

28. Focus was what that campaign was all about. We need to be hammering these keys with

letters reminding the democrats how they got there and that WE are still here. I don't mind the complaining if it is directed in the right way...I just can't stand how the good is taken for granted at best and ignored at worst.

A good portion of this country was uplifted by the election alone. We must remember that and then make the elected stand firm.

[blues90]

19. Face it , a politician is a politician .

What has he changed ? All I here is what he inherited and that is a first. He wanted this position yet still funds the damn wars. He siad he was going to to go line by line to see wht signing statements GW put in that broke the constitution what the hell happened to that?

Go ahead and stand by some political figure head , so far after all these years we still have wars and thingshave gotten worse and screw hope that is something you find within yourself it is not some campaign slogan,NO funking ONE can give you hope.

Hope for what , it takes the people not some word tossed out like so much shit .

And no I did not un-rec this topic I could care less it means nothing.

Just who are you attempting to convince anyway yourself ?

[progressivebydesign]

21. Yeah, because we ALL know that it was humanly possible to withdraw the troops on Day two.

Get real. We didn't want these wars, but we have them. And abruptly pulling all the troops out at once is dangerous to the troops. But ideologues don't care about that. They sit at their computer and criticize "politicians" for not doing everything exactly the way THEY want it to be done.

I utterly despise the sophomoric anti-politician meme. It's lazy thinking.

[blues90]

35. You know what , pull your head out of your ass

Do you actually think what you said actually means anything , where the hell have you been . WE as america have done nothing other than promote wars and death for decades and you think anyone who leaps into the seat will change that. It was not just GW , it's been going on all of my 61 years and no matter who was president it never changed.

It's all a damn political game , slogans and speeches that have no end .

Obama will come and go just all the others and still we will be doing the same thing.

Just when and how do you think wars end , look at the past. WE get our ass kicked. There is only one way stop funding the damn things.

Do you actuaally think that anyone in the ME wants us there and wants us to control their country , well not anymore than you would want them to control ours.

Think about that before you come up with the same old talking points I have heard since Vietnam.

You tell me how we get out and when , 5 years , 10 years , 15?

It is a fucking military money making game with death as the peoples price tag. Or don't you get that ?

[NoSheep]

38. Except what YOU haven't pulled your head out of YOUR ass to see is that Obama's

election means a whole hell of a lot more to some people than you will ever know. Do you ever think about that?
I probably agree with you more than this post might suggest...about how things always just stay the same, blah blah...but it seems to me that you are really off base with an attitude such as yours. Obama means something to the people who voted for him that is about generations and generations of individual struggle and pain that has absolutely NOTHING to do with white men's wars. It's not ALL JUST A FUCKING MILITARY GAME here, okay?

[maxpower]

48. I totally get it

No profit in peace. Obama inherited this clusterfuck that Bush left. What is your answer to this situation. Do you think we want war. Give us some sage advice as to how he is to deal with these fucked up wars he inherited. You have the wisdom of age, enlighten us neophytes. Because your generation has not come up with an answer, except Reagan.


Peace,
Max

[blues90]

58. I was not part of Reagan , you can't just go by a generation

And just use it to make a blanket statement like that. That's like saying anyone from a certain generation is racist. I have heard this statement used over and over and it means nothing , it is news speak. No one decides when they are born but one they are they decide what they do.

I'll tell you exactly what needs to change in politics if it is ever to work for the people.

Cut the funding from corporations and lobby groups who put in place candidates that willfully do their bidding , not yours or mine. This is why nothing has ever changed and stuck, it is always about money and power. Also elections should be based soley on the popular vote not on delegates which after all sort of an inside job, add to this it is the commities who decide who they will run in any given election we don't get to vote until after the fact. So it ends up, here is who they back , pick one.

If the people continue to allow the political parties to make all the rules in their own interests and all the laws to suit themselves then what is the definition of both political parties. Obama may be in office 4 or 8 years then after that someone else comes along and changes the furnature. Hell the congress give themself raises and do we have a say in that , hell no.

Also the military is a large part of where the tax money is spent , it is the largest piece of the pie.

Listen to this show from Guy James he spells it out pretty clearly.

http://www.whiterosesociety.org/content/james/JamesShow-(20-10-2009).mp3

[blues90]

60. Every president inherits the last admins deal

Yet you must also include in that statement each one ran for that position at will. Obama had to have some idea of what this involved , if not then he was not looking very close. He knew how the economy was going and the wars and he decided to take them on.

[NoSheep]

30. You see what you want to see through spoiled eyes.

[blues90]

36. Yeah , you keep telling your self that

Let me know in another few years how it all works out . WE have been here so many time before , show me one good outcome when it comes to wars and political campaigns and slogans, just one , go ahead. I can show you plenty of death for our greed and you are part of it as am I.

What a stupid ignorant statement you made . Spoiled eyes , hardly , experienced eyes. Open yours. and save the lame comments until you can back up youe statement.

[NoSheep]

40. You have no idea how much we agree. Just not about everything.

[blues90]

43. I will never again believe in political games.

Count me out on that one , been there so many times and done that and got the photo's and memories of long ago close friends in a box.

If it were not for the enormous amounts of money to get elected which climbs each election and if it were not for all the promises never kept yeah then maybe. But this is not how it is.

Go back through all the elections and look at the slogans. see what the end result was and then you will know why we are where we are now.

[NoSheep]

44. I know why we are where we are now....but I just can't seem to convince the

majority that everyone needs to take LSD.

[blues90]

46. I don't know if LSD is the answer

But people need something to bring it down to a reality that for once that race and where you live does not make an enemy. How do we reach a point where people are all seen as people who all just want the smae basic things.

I can tell you politics is not the way because it never sticks. It is a game made up of influence, popularity and money driven by corporate interests which have never had the peoples interest in mind , never.

We have a plush whitehouse and capital building and a wall with 58,000 names on it not far away and head stones in Arlington that go on forever plus graves all over the globe where people died and still what has changed from all of this? There are grand places all over the globe that are home to the powers that be yet who suffers and pays for this , ordinary people who where forced into wars and now here we are in 2009 , war is still a profit off death and it has expanded to health care being profit off death and we somehow call this progress. It is not progress , it is a never ending enrichment for the top who made their profit off of ordinary peoples suffering and death. People who normally would never hate each other yet re told and convinced they must.

There is only one way to end this and that is to say no , we will not do this anymore , not for one more second . It has to end one day or it will never end so why not now ? If not now then it will be never , this has to be known.

We would not be in the ME if there were no oil or gas. You know this and I do and anyone who does not should be cut out end of story.

[maxpower]

50. National strike

Unfortunately the idiot right will no participate. We need to show who controls the purse strings of our national economy. We have no way to pull this off. Please tell me how to accomplish this.

Peace,
Max

[blues90]

59. There is a handfull of people from either side

who will support a national strike. They had one on the 29th of Oct .

[maxpower]

52. LSD is kind of fuck up

I have taken my share, and if not in the correct mindset it will end up bad. On the other hand, pot should be mandatory.


Peace,
Max

[maxpower]

53. LSD is kind of fuck up

I have taken my share, and if not in the correct mindset it will end up bad. On the other hand, pot should be mandatory.


Peace,
Max

[maxpower]

49. With all your wisdom

What is your answer, besides criticizing anyone who disagrees?


Peace,
Max

[Ryano42]

33. Well,,,it's easy to complain...

let's hear real alternatives! Give up? Go 3rd party? I am open to hear it.

Honestly NOTHING will be perfect...everything is the bitter sausage of compromise and lowered expectation...but really...what do we do next?

Slow steady painful inexorable progess...sad but true...

[blues90]

41. Tell you what . when someone you knew as a friend

comes back in a damn box like many of mine had in the 60's then we will have something to connect with. Just how many times do you feel we need to go throught THE SAME DAMN THING ??????????????????????????????????

Perfect , are you fucking kidding me? This is what you call PROGRESS ?

How many damn years is enough for you?

The answers are not in the politicians but in the people who have had enough. So say when and do something about it and if you think voting is the answer well then go vote sucker.

[maxpower]

47. Maybe I am

But, I am convinced he can make a difference. What are your suggestions. We have to face the fact that America is chock full of idiots. That has always been the case. Ever since Andrew Jackson won, the powers that be have tried to suppress the great unwashed. I am open to your ideas, as you feel pretty strongly about it.


Peace,
Max

[SammyWinstonJack]

55. +1

:thumbsup:

[madmax]

24. Here, here!!

He blew me away when he gave the keynote speech in 2004. When he announced, I didn't think he had a prayer against Hillary, his age, and ok, I'll be honest - I didn't think America had the balls to vote for a black man for President. I too am honored that we've come this far but, I see and hear racism about his Presidency everyday, up close and personal. Being white, some whites think I must think like them. Assholes.

I'm proud that he's our President, he's doing the best he can as fast as he can. I for one am going to cut him some slack. :applause: to the First Family!!

[NoSheep]

32. Here here! To the First Family!

:toast:

[G_j]

39. I like him too

but I can't seem to muster up enough amnesia to forget how my heart and conscience have been torn apart by the war crimes of the Bush/Cheney admin..

[maxpower]

45. None of us know what hand he was dealt

I believe that he has more sense that he entire Bush Cabal.


Peace,
Max

[voc]

42. I agree with OP.

President Obama is smart and savvy.

[maxpower]

51. Thank you

Peace,
Max

[maxpower]

56. Why all the hate here

We have gotten what we wanted. Trolls? Are they out there. If you are going to un rec please say why. Thanks.


Peace,
Max

[Toasterlad]

62. "We have gotten what we wanted."

No, "we" haven't. Speak for yourself.

[maxpower]

63. Nobody gets everything they want

I was just speaking to the fact that we control both houses and the White house. Unfortunately, the tail is waggin' the dog. I am really disappointed in the fact Obama didn't twist arms. He's not perfect, he will get better.


Peace,
Max

[madokie]

65. Yep he's my man

I'll take him over any of the others aspiring to be in is place and or the ones here who cut him short every step of the way, screw them