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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 10:16 AM
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Joe Lieberman got exactly what Joe Lieberman wanted...
Edited on Wed Oct-28-09 10:18 AM by Atman
He's back in the news again, people think he matters again. That's all Joe is ever about -- JOE. Nothing more. He's taking millions from the insurance industry, and he'll get millions more if he helps them out. It's all about JOE and what is in HIS interest. It is always about Joe with Joe. Why is anyone surprised?

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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 10:20 AM
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1. Joementum?
:shrug:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 10:20 AM
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2. Nate Silver agrees...
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/10/somebody-buy-joe-lieberman-puppy.html

Somebody Buy Joe Lieberman a Puppy
by Nate Silver @ 4:01 PM
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The reason this is a little scary for Democrats is because the usual things that serve to motivate a Congressman don't seem to motivate Joe Lieberman.

Would voting to filibuster the Democrats' health care bill (if it contains a decent public option) endear Lieberman to his constituents? No; Connecticutians favor the public option 64-31.

Would it make his path to re-election easier? No, because it would virtually assure that Lieberman faces a vigorous and well-funded challenge from a credible, capital-D Democrat, and polls show him losing such a match-up badly.

Would it buy him more power in the Senate? No, because Democrats would have every reason to strip him of his chairmanship of the Homeland Security Committee.

Is Lieberman's stance intended to placate the special interests in his state? Perhaps this is part of it -- there are a lot of insurance companies in Connecticut -- but Lieberman is generally not one of the more sold-out Senators, ranking 75th out of the 100-member chamber in the percentage of his fundraising that comes from corporate PACs.

Are there any particular compromises or concessions he wants in the bill? He hasn't stipulated any, at least not publicly.

Might he have a legitimate policy objection to the public option? Certainly there are some legitimate objections -- whether or not you agree with them. But Lieberman's objections don't make any sense. He says he's worried about blunting "the economic recovery we’re in" even though the public option provisions wouldn't kick in until 2013. He says he's worried about debt-reduction when the public option would make the bill more deficit-neutral. And he campaigned on a public-option type alternative called "MediChoice" in 2006.

What Joe Lieberman wants, in all probability, is attention. He wants Harry Reid to have to stand up and say things like : "I don't have anyone that I've worked harder with, have more respect for, in the Senate than Joe Lieberman." He wants face time on Meet the Press. He wants to make liberals feel some pain -- especially those who tried to get Ned Lamont elected in his place. He wants everyone to know how maverick-y he is.

But even if Lieberman will probably cave, this creates real problems for Democrats. For one thing, Lieberman has said he won't oppose the motion to proceed with the health care bill. Instead, he'll filibuster the end result, if he doesn't like the outcome. This is actually very devious. If Harry Reid determines that he doesn't have 60 votes on the motion to proceed on a bill with a public option, then he doesn't have to bring it to the floor. Progressives will be apoplectic, Reid will lose some face, pundits will talk about Democrats having lost momentum -- but the prospects for health care reform will probably not have seriously been damaged. The opt-out will get replaced by an opt-in or maybe a trigger or co-ops or whatever and Olympia Snowe will be very happy and the debate will proceed.

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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 10:21 AM
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3. Now if Joe could get what he deserves-then life would be good.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-28-09 10:22 AM
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4. one would think that he's got about all the money he can use at this point in his life
he appears to be as old as Methuselah. Why does he need more? Have we been lied to? Can we take it with us when we die?
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