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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 11:30 AM
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LOL more implosion in the GOP! In the end, we are going to be thanking the teabaggers!
Time for Dana Loesch and Bill Hennessy to, in their own words, "put up or shut up"

Dana Loesch and Bill Hennessy were outside of St. Louis City Hall yesterday demanding that all elected officials in the GOP denounce Republican Candidate Dede Scozzafava in the NY-23 House of Representatives race. Though Scozzafava was selected by voters in the primary, wingnuts around America hate her because she is too moderate for their tastes, and they have urged "real Republicans" to support independent candidate Doug Hoffman.

Loesch and Hennessy, as you can see here, held signs that said, "GOP: Put up or shut up" at the rally. In fact, Loesch said (24:35 in the below video), that she was giving Missouri Representatives Roy Blunt and Todd Akin "until the end of the day" to release a statement against Scozzafava or else, "we are coming for you." She also said earlier (19:00) that if they didn't have the brass to do "what's right," then, "we will vote you out! We will come at you with so much heat, you won't even know how to handle it!" Here's the video

Well, Friday has passed and neither Roy Blunt nor Todd Akin released any statement about the NY-23 race. Let's see if the St. Louis Tea Party really stands by their stated convictions, or whether they are all bluster and no bite. In their own words, let's see whether they "put up or shut up."


http://stlouispushesback.blogspot.com/2009/10/time-for-dana-loesch-and-bill-hennessy.html

And more evidence of the GOP implosion:

While I have long opposed the 3rd party strategy, as it will surely swell the ranks of the Socialist-Democrat party in Congress, the frightening lack of courage shown by most Republican leaders on this issue has raised a troubling thought for me: Is the GOP worth salvaging? Or should we begin, now, the process of dismantling the Republican Party and assembling a new party dedicated to the principle that which governs least governs best?
http://stlouisteaparty.com/2009/10/24/ny-23-spine-rally-at-st-louis-city-hall/

Note the increasing attention the teabaggers are paying to this race in NY. This is causing infighting because some of the teabaggers are focusing on local and state races for 2010 and resent the attention on a race in another state.

Also the girl in this video is a piece of work. If you can stand it, here is her website: http://thedanashow.wordpress.com/
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 11:42 AM
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1. Ah, the smell of schadenfreude in the morning
Back in the good old days when the New Deal was in effect, the GOP was the smaller party of the upper middle class and wealthy. They were characterized by thrift and dignity even as they were wrong about everything.

Now they've become the party of the unwashed rabble, still wrong about everything and with a total lack of dignity.

They've marginalized themselves very nicely. While there are sufficient numbers of morons in large parts of the country to return some to office every year, they're finished as a party. They're more of a cultish mindset, ineffective at altering the course of the country.

For the foreseeable future, the real fight will be within the Democratic Party's liberal and conservative wings.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 12:40 PM
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6. Turns out 1968 may have been the real "Waterloo" for
The Republican Party....just delayed 41 years.

Nixon and his Southern Strategy captured the Dixiecrats ( modern day birthers & teabaggers) and set the stage for the demise of the Republican party you described :

Back in the good old days when the New Deal was in effect, the GOP was the smaller party of the upper middle class and wealthy. They were characterized by thrift and dignity even as they were wrong about everything.


Those chickens have come home to roost....
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 12:43 PM
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7. And the bad news is the conservative rich have slipped under the Democratic tent. Now what do we do?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 02:00 PM
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12. They not only survived the bigots, they thrived with them
It was Reagan's delivery of the party to the wingnut churches that is sinking them.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 10:33 PM
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16. Both you & Rhett are dead on.
It was great for them (real republicans) through the honeymoon and middle years, but the 40 year marriage of "convenience " is coming apart.

As Rhett, in the post above correctly stated, " we are now stuck w/ the more liberal wing of the Republican party masquerading as something called a "bluedog."

We can change this....
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 11:46 AM
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2. What business is it of Missouri's constituents who New York elects to represent them?
Sorry, the Congressmen can endorse whoever they want. But the constituents have no standing to demand that their rep's (in another state) endorse a 3rd party candidate.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 12:00 PM
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3. That is truly a brain twister
Trust me, they have plenty to do in MO. :)
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 12:58 PM
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8. That's that there "government that governs least governs best" in action, or inaction, I guess.
Same thing that gave us a cosmetics sales-lady, Palin wannabe, with, shall we say, rather provocative fashion sense, in our state-house seat. Like Tom Coburn, hand-picked by outsiders, who used ooodles of outside money to beat our highly qualified Republican crossover. Gotta punish that crossover for being free (of their $$$$$) and an independent thinker, you know. I'd LOVE to see them try the same thing in NY; I dare say they won't find it so ea$y. I'm looking forward to it.
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 01:14 PM
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11. It took me alot of reading to arrive at the same question.
I should have simply scrolled down on this message board first.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 03:27 PM
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15. Congress is a national legislature, the laws they pass affect Missourians as well as New Yorkers
When people here bash Mary Landrieu I don't tell them that they have no business doing so because she doesn't represent them. I do tell them that they are generally ignorant about Louisiana politics, however. I would imagine these people are probably ignorant of the politics of New York's 23rd district and thus should probably stay out of it for that reason.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 12:37 PM
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4. Really Thinking
I'm telling you...Palin has not one chance in Hades to get the republican nod. She and her supporters are thinking of what Liberman did in CT. She wants to leave her options open to a third party...she is egotistical enough to think she could win something. And the fanatic rabid way out fans are helping her.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 12:38 PM
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5. Nope can't stand to look at dat site/sight!
:puke: Thanks though.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 01:05 PM
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9. me neither! Thanks Proud2BlibKansan! nt
Edited on Sun Oct-25-09 01:05 PM by patrice
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 01:05 PM
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10. Palin backs 3rd-party candidate in NY House race
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091023/ap_on_el_ho/us_ny_special_election_palin

Chuggin down the track! Oops! The brakes has gave out! And just as we is about to head down Seven Mile Mountain!
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 02:48 PM
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13. hahahahaha
I love it!!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-25-09 03:24 PM
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14. "Socialist-Democrat party" EPIC FAIL!!!
:rofl:
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-26-09 02:30 AM
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17. Factual correction: There was no primary. New York law doesn't allow one.
From the linked article: "Though Scozzafava was selected by voters in the primary...." Not so. When there's a vacancy in a U.S. House seat, New York law provides that the Governor sets the date for a special election. Then each party's candidate is chosen by the county chairs in the district.

Hoffman was one of several people seeking the Republican nomination. The Republican county chairs, however, were keenly aware that the district has been trending blue (Obama took it in 2008 after two Bush wins). They decided that Scozzafava, a liberal Republican, would have a better chance of winning the seat. (It was probably also a factor that she's an incumbent Assembly member and Hoffman has never held elective office.) Hoffman at first said he would support Scozzafava (see news story: ), so I think it likely that the Republican leaders expected that disgruntled conservatives would have no choice but to support Scozzafava. Their calculations might have been correct if Hoffman had stayed out of the race.

My hope is that Hoffman's poll numbers will increase, to the point where some Scozzafava voters think her campaign is a lost cause and switch to Owens, the Democrat, whose positions are much closer to Scozzafava's than are Hoffman's.
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