Here's the proof of moon bomb? Do you need more?

[kentuck]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1218768/Revealed-The-flash-saw-Nasas-49million-bomb-crashed-Moon-quest-discover-water.html

Pictures galore!!

[madeline_con]

1. Why? Is it being doubted? n/t

[kentuck]

2. I'm beginning to doubt the video.

The camera on board before it goes blank should show the impact area in the middle of the camera shot? Right? Why do they show the impact area hundreds of miles away to the left of the camera shot??

[madeline_con]

3. Why couldn't a satellite get pics from another angle? n/t

[csziggy]

8. The impact area is in the middle of the still shot

There is an inset with an enlargement on the left and another inset with a larger blow up on the right? But look right in the middle just above the big hump - there is a white dot. That is the impact. In the inset on the left, you can see the top edge of the hump at the bottom of the inset.

[kentuck]

11. If you look at the live video....

The impact is not in the center. It is far to the left. It appears to me.

[csziggy]

12. They say that they are keeping the camera on the shepherd vehicle

Centered on the impact zone. There are a lot of video artifacts that seem to show up - more on the YouTube video than on the one I recorded with our DVR, but they appear on both. That may be what you are seeing.

[Warren DeMontague]

30. Holy shit! Far to the left, you say? The Left!?!?!?!?!

Wow. That's exactly the direction it would have had to be psychically diverted, to save the Star Folks Lunar Colony!!!

:woohoo:

Wow. I mean, WOW.

You can't try to tell me THAT is some sort of "coincidence".

[SidDithers]

4. Unrecc'd...

The Daily Fail? Really?

Sid

[Garbo 2004]

5. The pics are those NASA released and have appeared in other media outlets.nt

[SidDithers]

15. Yes, and the OP seems to be questioning their validity...

at least that's how I read post #2. That's why I unrecc'd, 'cause the OP is using The Daily Mail to imply that the LCROSS mission was a massive failure (which it wasn't)

Sid

[Renew Deal]

6. People have the dumbest reasons to unrec a good post

And your's is full of dumb

[SidDithers]

16. FWIW, I know that those are the NASA images...

and I think the LCROSS mission was good science. What I was unreccing was the Daily Mail's "version" of what happened. They, to me, are spinning the mission as a failure, because we weren't able to see a great dust plume with a backyard telescope. The success of the mission will be determined by the data analysis over the next couple weeks, not on real-time visual images.

Edit: Here's what the OP really thinks about the mission. That's a big part of why I unrecc'd this post.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6728139&mesg_id=6752528

I'll ask you to reconsider whether you think my reasons for unreccing were "full of dumb".

Sid

[beam me up scottie]

21. A Grand Wizard Woo claims he saved a Star People Lunar Colony on the moon:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6728139&mesg_id=6756141

Here's a tease:

After LCROSS and Centaur were speeding on their new course, I engaged first one, then the other, with strong dissolution energy to unbind the Strong Force bonds holding their atoms together as molecules. Moving from top to bottom, I un-did the Strong Force bonds, causing the component materials of these space vehicles to come apart at the molecular level. This process also safely dismantled the advanced munitions which were secretly aboard these space vehicles. Nothing left but a expanding array of atoms.

Hiya Sid! :hi:

[Swamp Rat]

22. beam me up scottie!!

:hi: Long time no see! :hug:

[beam me up scottie]

23. Swampie!

Didn't think it was possible but your talent is more awesome than ever.

:hug:

[Swamp Rat]

25. woo woo!

:D

I read your post about Dr. Woo Woo, PhD.... :crazy: :rofl:

There is no cure for the star people woo woos, except perhaps a frontal lobotomy.... oh wait. Phenobarbs and castration works too, but that's really gross, and Hale-Bopp is long gone.

I pray the Flying Spaghetti Monster will swoop down (or the Great Pumpkin) and snatch them away to the Crab Nebula where they belong. rAmen! :D

[beam me up scottie]

28. ROFL! Perusing that site is a non-surgical frontal lobotomy done on an outpatient basis.

You can literally feel your IQ shrinking.

May the Spaghetti be with you. :patriot:

[Warren DeMontague]

24. I guess they're more proactive now. Not like the old days, when they'd just cut their own nuts off

and drink sedative laced-vodka while waiting for the comet in their matching jumpsuits. :shrug:

[beam me up scottie]

26. I'd like to know where they draw the line.

Is there any woo that they dismiss or are they obligated to support their peers so that no one disses their pet woo?

[Swamp Rat]

27. Whoa!

Read #25! :D

[Warren DeMontague]

29. Great minds, eh?

Not to mention the fact that it's amazing I remember *anything* from the 90s.

[beam me up scottie]

32. Don't forget the purple blankets and sneakers.

I know Barney had something to do with this.



ETA how creepy is it that their leader is the spitting image of Mel Gibson?

[SidDithers]

31. Wow. That's some serious woo...

always good to see you, bmus :hug:

Sid

[csziggy]

7. Here are the NASA pictures and explanation

Astronomy picture of the day:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap091010.html

[SidDithers]

18. Yup. I've seen them...

what I was reacting to was the Daily Mail's "spin" on the LCROSS mission. They paint the mission as a failure, and an "embarrassing day for the space agency", while I believe that the true value of the mission is in analysis of data over the next couple of weeks.

Sid

[csziggy]

20. Yeah, I think NASA's animations over played the size of the "plume"

From the first strike. And now every non-science person thinks that it was a failure. :shrug:

I knew it would take weeks or months to get the real value out of the data so it's no big deal.

[Zix]

14. See, this is why I think unrec is a bad idea.

people are much more likely to just reflexively go "Ner!" than "yay"

[SidDithers]

19. My unrec was anything but "reflexive"...

I read the article and felt it presented the LCROSS mission, and NASA, in an unfairly negative light. The Daily Mail is a right wing rag, and linking to it is like using Fox News as a source.

Sid

[TreasonousBastard]

9. That's worth it just for the comments...

some even funnier than the ones here the other day.

(The pix are good, too.)

[slay]

10. NASA should have played it safe and told people not to expect much

It was so heavily promoted - I can see why people are pissed/wondering what happened. I'm kind of surprised to see other DU'ers turn on each other over something so silly - but I do fault NASA for hyping it up and making it seem like it would be more than it was. We could have used that $75 million it cost better as well IMO. :shrug:

[Posteritatis]

13. THe media was spazzing out more than NASA was spinning it up, I think

All the pants-wetting panic festivals about this thing on DU leading up to it were people reacting to badly-written, hyperbolic news articles.

Also, they weren't spending the $75M just to give the public a light show. Science doesn't have to be flashy to result in knowledge.

[slay]

17. I didn't see NASA saying - "there will likely not be anything to see" either

I'm not doubting the science part of the mission - just that it has turned into kind of a mess the way it was reported. Indeed the media is largely at fault but NASA didn't seem to want to talk them out of it either.

If nothing else - this Brian Day guy can be partially to blame: ""We expect the debris plumes to be visible through midsized backyard telescopes -- 10 inches and larger," said Brian Day at NASA's Ames Research Center at Moffett Field, California, before the strike. Day is an amateur astronomer who is leading education and public outreach for the LCROSS mission." -- http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/10/09/probe.moon.crash/index.html