An open letter to citizens and residents of nations other than the USA.

[reprobate]

Even tho we Americans managed to elect a Democratic congress our elected representatives want to make nice and refuse to hold the administration-meaning Bush/Cheney-accountable for the federal crimes they have committed, not to mention the crimes against humanity.

It's apparent by this time that the desires of the citizens of this nation have no bearing on what the government, Democrat or Republican, will do. Their actions are determined not by the citizens, but by the corporations that supply the materials of war. That's due to the way we finance our elections. We work on the "Electoral Bribery" principle. Ask any of our representatives and they will tell you that they spend at least half of their time begging for campaign funds from lobbyists, who represent corporations. That's a problem that appears unfixable, but I believe that there is something that cam be done about it. Just as there are things that can be done about all the abominations that this administration has caused us, and you-the world- to endure.


And there is something that I will ask you to do as individuals that I believe will keep this from ever happening again. And I believe that I will have a salutary effect on all the nations of the world. It will, in effect slap the faces of all governments and make them responsible to their PEOPLE once more.

Now I'll get to what I want to ask of you. The criminals that have caused all the deaths, horror, and larceny are the administration that runs this country now. You know that and I know that.

Our congress leaders have told us that they do not plan to hold them accountable in so many words. Remember "IMPEACHMENT IS OFF THE TABLE"? Well, that would only cover those crimes that are proscribed by OUR laws. There is a whole other set of laws that our congress can have no judgment on. I'm talking about international crimes, crimes against humanity.

That's where you come in. Your media is much more free than ours has become. And your governments are more responsive to your citizens than is ours. There is enough rancor in the rest of the world that I think it possible that a popular movement could cause the nations belonging to the UN to convene a new War Crimes Commission to bring the perpetrators of the last seven years of horror to justice.

But that's all up to you. If you agree with me, there are some things that you could do to get things started. Write letters to your media. Write to your legislators. Talk to your friends and families about it. Tell all these people that the citizens of the world demand that justice be done. That it is absolutely imperative that those who caused the world to tremble in fear and did so for monetary gain be held accountable to the people of the world. Some have called George W. Bush the "NEW HITLER". I disagree. Hitler was a crazed demagogue, who operated strictly from personal ego. George W. Bush is the puppet of a bunch of military supplier CEOs who have sucked billions from our treasury with not the slightest thought.

Think about it. We were not the only nation effected by this bunch of criminals. Most of the rest of the world has suffered. Well, with the possible exception of Patagonia.

What do you feel in response to to the Bush years of terror? Do you agree with me? How do you think you can help? Do you have a blog to push the idea. Can you print posters? I don't know what else can be done, maybe you have some ideas you'd like to share. All I know is that it's out of our hands here in the US of A. It's up to you out there in the world to help us now.

Help us send this gang of thieves to the Hague, to spend the rest of their lives behind bars.

[DCKit]

1. You, you, REPROBATE!!!!

Of course Patagonia, Argentina has been affected. Their glaciers are sliding off into the ocean almost as fast as those in Greenland and Antarctica.

K&R

[ClayZ]

2. K and R

[reprobate]

11. Thank you ClayZ

[Bjornsdotter]

3. Sheesh

....I'm still waiting for Kissinger to be tried for war crimes.

As much as I'd like to see * & Co. at the Hague, it won't happen.

Cheers

[Truthiness Inspector]

4. Whoa

It's posts like this one that really make me shake my head.

What if other countries don't like what YOU are doing, or what our Dems in leadership positions are doing, on ANY matter? I guess you want American citizens turned over to as you said "residents of nations other than the USA" for judgment.

Holy shit.

[ChazII]

6. We agree.

While I don't like what is happening in D.C. The very thought of what the OP suggests makes me shudder.

[PaganPreacher]

5. Your homework assignment:

1. List the specific sections of the US Code Chimpy McHitler violated, and provide specific citations of evidence to support your allegations (blogs and opinion pieces don't count).

2. List the specific "international laws" Chimpy McHitler violated, and provide specific citations of evidence to support your allegations (blogs and opinion pieces don't count).

3. Name three nations whose armed forces could successfully attack the United States; invade Washington, DC; and seize Chimpy McHitler for transport to the stocks.

EXTRA CREDIT:
Describe the process by which the armed forces of the United States would not be mobilized to repel the invasion described in question #3.

The Pagan Preacher
Old School Liberal, circa 1789

[reprobate]

10. Please read my post more carefully and show

where I suggested that another nation should invade the US.

[Truthiness Inspector]

7. Is the OP going to return to discuss this or just vent/dump?

You advocate this course of action, foolishly in my opinion, so at least stick around to discuss it.

[reprobate]

8. I'm right here. And have been since Feb. 2001. What did you want to say?

[G_j]

9. I'd sign that letter

why should anyone, anywhere be free to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity? Bush of course, should have no special immunity from justice here or in the international community.

[Spurt]

12. Frustration.

Your post clearly expresses your justified frustration with the continuing fiasco that is this administration. However I feel your appeal is misdirected.
I do not believe that the rest of the world is going to be effective in initiating change, nor should they be interfering in the domestic politics of another nation. (Just as the US should also quit interfering in the domestic politics of others - that is the UN's task.) The ONLY way to bring the administration down before the end of its term is via impeachment. Any successful external process would take far too long, even if it was initiated today.

Do you really think that LTTE's in far flung places will have any more effect than the thousands already published from coast to coast over recent years? Further, the MSM is not much better in many other western nations - much of it is also owned by the corporate giants and they often source international news content from the corrupt international pools owned by Murdoch et al.

Now for an e.punch to your nose! You state "But that's all up to you." That just smells like a White House strategy, ie we broke it but you have to fix it. (Hope your nose didn't bleed as I recognise it is just a result of your frustration.)

As to suggestions, well here is one. Sibel Edmonds. Before the election she was promised a committee hearing to allow her to tell her story. I strongly believe she has an extra large can of woopass that would be instrumental. So how about getting some weight behind having that hearing - tomorrow. There are other whistleblowers waiting in the wings too, and no doubt more who will pop their heads up if they see it is possible to do so and be taken seriously.

Keep up the good fight Reprobate. Rumsfeld - gone, Bolton - gone, Libby - gone, Miers - gone, Gonzo - going, Wolfo - going. Keep shooting them one at a time, the trend is good.
And BTW tell Hillary, Obama and all the other reps to get back to doing the jobs they were elected to do instead of fundraising and electioneering for their own political futures. There is time for that later - right now they should all be working 110% to give the country back to its people. I am so grateful that Conyers & Waxman (and others) are giving 110%, but I'm upset that all reps are not doing precisely that.

Cheers

[reprobate]

15. Thanks, Spurt, for the reasoned reply. We're not that far apart in our opinions.

I too would certainly prefer to see our Dems in congress do something to end this mess, and perhaps I am too impatient. While Palosi did say that "impeachment is off the table", I can give her the breathing room to hold the investigations she promised and hope that they build into an unstoppable demand for impeachment.

Sibel Edmonds is just ONE of the whistle blowers that need to unburden themselves in public. Along with those from the military, state dept., CIA and other intel agengies, Justice, etc. I have faith that were all the people with damaging testimony about the administration to speak, there would be overwhelming pressure for removal from office.

What concerns me is the possibility that the word 'compromise' has become the working model of our congressional Democrats. If I were a religious person I would pray that I were wrong, but I have seen little evidence of vertebral bodies among them.

I long to hear one of our leadership stand up and tell Shitforbrains: "You are NOT the 'decider', you are only the president, so if you want to get ANYTHING done in your last 20 months in office you'd better start working with us."

[michreject]

13. If some country agreed with you and siezed Bush for war crimes

Their country would be made into a parking lot overnight.

[mudesi]

14. I'm amazed by the number of people disparaging this OP

So far I count six.

This OP is spot on. Bush is a war criminal and if there was any justice in this world he would be tried for his crimes. To the person who demanded proof, what more proof do you need? Lack of WMD, Abu Gharaib, Gitmo. That's only three.

I'm intrigued by the people who disagree with this OP, as if only America has the right to take out crazed dictators on a whim. As a Canadian citizen, I can speak from the perspective of a foreigner, and let me tell you the vast majority of us wouldn't mind seeing a UN mandated force take your president out. And I speak as a Canadian with almost my entire family living in the United States. I'm not even a "pure" Canadian.

Mr. Bush is a mad man, make no mistake about it. He has murdered half a million innocent people because Haliburton contributed to his campaign. It would not be immoral or unjust for the entire world to turn against him for what he has done. Apparently it was not right for Saddam Hussein to invade Kuwait, and we all supported the UN mandated mission back then. But when it is America committing the war crimes, unsurprisingly there still exist Americans, even so called "liberals" or "progressives", who will balk at the very idea of world retaliation.

K & R.

[ClayZ]

16. Kick againg!