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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 01:06 PM
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Cape Kennedy, Cape Canaveral and rednecks
Whatever is named after Ted Kennedy, don’t hold your breath for the name to stick.

Jack Kennedy challenged us to get to the moon within ten years and we did it in eight. In 1963, the name Cape Canaveral was changed to Cape Kennedy.

In 1973, the Florida legislature, backed by every redneck in the region, officially dumped Cape Kennedy and changed the name back to Cape Canaveral. Just how much of a miserable prick do you have to be to do something like that?

Do you suppose that when the thugs regain power, they’ll add Dubys’s face to Mr. Rushmore?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 01:08 PM
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1. They can add his ass
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 01:57 PM
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9. ass/face same thing.
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Resuscitated Ethics Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 01:11 PM
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2. what about Washington National Airport?
MONTHS after the cretin left office, the air traffic controllers firings still fresh, changed to "Reagan national"?

It's still "national" to me.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 01:19 PM
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3. Whenever possible, I avoid flying into or out of "National." It's cursed.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 02:06 PM
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14. evidence of this "curse"?
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 01:58 PM
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11. Me too. it was already named after a GOOD president
why would they named it after one who set this country on a path to destruction?
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 02:41 PM
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17. They changed its name during the * regime
And it cost the taxpayers plenty to change all the signs for it as well. I'd LOVE to see it changed back to National, I'd even contribute to a kitty to offset costs.

But it will never happen as the Dems have no balls and no spine. Half of them are really republicans hiding out while the fallout from the * regime settles, anyway.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 02:56 PM
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23. I will never call it "Reagan" National
And neither will anyone in my family. :thumbsdown:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 10:02 PM
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30. "Reagan NAP." nt
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 01:32 PM
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4. Well, in all fairness, FDR changed the name of Hoover Dam to Boulder Dam...
Edited on Fri Aug-28-09 01:32 PM by Dennis Donovan
...because he and SecInt Harold Ickes (yes, THAT Harold Ickes' father) HATED Hoover with every fibre of their being... After FDR and Ickes were out of government, the name was changed back to Hoover Dam.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 01:46 PM
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5. Okay. So when do we get to restore the name Cape Kennedy?
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 01:53 PM
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7. Perhaps when FL is a Dem stronghold again - AND when we raise a stink about it...
I'm a 100% behind the name change BACK to Cape Kennedy.:thumbsup:
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 02:05 PM
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13. never going to happen
Even Jackie acknowledged that it was a mistake to rename not just the Space Center, but the entire Cape, which had been named "Canaveral" for nearly 400 years.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 03:21 PM
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24. I think it would be better to just allow Mass to flip/flop from time to
time on how to fill senate vacancies, and allow the residents of Cape Canaveral keep the same historical name they grew up with.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 02:43 PM
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18. Wait. Seriously?
Lizard-men Harold Ickes?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 02:52 PM
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22. Harold, senior was probably THE leading progressive in the admin.w/ Hopkins, Wallace and Eleanor
It was Eleanor, then Ickes - who had been Prez of the Illinois NAACP - that arranged Marian Anderson's concert. Here's Harold and Marian:

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 02:48 PM
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19. Bad form by FDR and Ickes. But Hoover spent the '30s making speeches trashing FDR...
which was NOT cool.

FDR, and ER had been big Hoover fans in the '20s, but when he invited all the governors to the White House in April, 1932 and made them all stand, that's STAND and wait for him to receive them in the East Room for nearly an hour, that was it for the Roosevelts. That night it was up to Eleanor to hold FDR up and, evidently, they were both sweating like NBA players at the foul line. Folks kept coming up and offering FDR a chair, which he declined.

After that, the Roosevelts wanted to squash him like a bug.
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 03:29 PM
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25. An important part that I left out (unintentionally)...
Hoover was a PRICK to FDR during the 1933 Inaugural. Thanks for bringing that up!:hi:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 10:01 PM
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29. Yes, it's odd. Hoover and Carter were both engineers, good, moral men with good marriages...
that were pretty starchy.

Hoover also declined FDR's request in 1940 to have Hoover work with Eleanor running a refugee board.

So, actually, Truman's saying that FDR "never called Hoover" etc isn't true.

Hi there back at you!
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 01:52 PM
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6. a little history:
Cape Canaveral -- the entire Cape, not just the space center built there -- was named by the Spanish in the 1500s. Had the only thing that was renamed for President Kennedy been the space center, there would have been little or no controversy. But not only the facilty's name was changed, but the place itself was re-named, which did not go over well with a lot of long time residents who felt that a name that had been around for over 300 years shouldn't be changed. So eventually, they pushed to get the name of the place back to Cape Canaveral, while the Space Center continues to be named for JFK. Even Jackie acknowledged that was the right result.

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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 01:55 PM
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8. True. Most folks don't know that St. Augustine...up North a bit from there...
was an founded by the Spanish in 1565, 55 years before Plymouth in 1620.
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Cyrano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 02:02 PM
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12. I personnally believe we should change the name Texas back to tejas and
Edited on Fri Aug-28-09 02:05 PM by Cyrano
hand it over to the local Indians who were the original owners for countless centuries.
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timo Donating Member (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 04:01 PM
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28. how?
you'd be pretty hardpressed to find a karankawa to give back the gulf coast region to
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DarbyUSMC Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 03:46 PM
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26. Thanks for pointing that out. I lived in that area before the change and concur
that it was right to change it back, leaving the space center with Kennedy's name. Oft' times decisions are made in haste with good intentions. I'm from the home town of Francis Bellamy, the author of the Pledge. When they added "under God" to his little Pledge of Allegiance, the folks in our town weren't overjoyed.

http://mockingbirdhill.homestead.com/myhometown.html
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 01:58 PM
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10. That would be good than we can all throw tomatoes at it.
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Tsar_Bomba Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 02:07 PM
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15. Florida's turnpike is still called the Ronald Reagan turnpike
with plenty of signs paid for by tax dollars to remind me. Unfortunately for me the Florida legislature is full of repukes.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 02:50 PM
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20. Let's not forget 'National Airport'. nt
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 02:40 PM
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16. Thank You. I Always Wondered Why/When It Changed Back /nt
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 02:50 PM
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21. Next time they'll just sell the name, see you at Cape Staples
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OllieLotte Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 03:52 PM
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27. Ha...good one. n/t
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