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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 07:59 PM
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Live - Moran Town Hall (Northern Va.)
Source: C_SPAN

Live town hall with Rep. Moran

video link is on the front page, feature story

Read more: http://cspan.org/
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 08:04 PM
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1. Moran town hall is right
what a riot.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 08:09 PM
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2. I thought it was pretty good. The right-wing was out in force but the supporters were really good
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 08:17 PM
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3. We're tough in NoVa,
and we have Jim Moran, who takes no shit from idiots.

How did Jim handle himself tonight? I couldn't get there..............
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 08:22 PM
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4. well, after randall terry spewed his vile crap, repeatedly yelling that Howard
Dean is a baby killer, he offered Terry the first question and 5 minutes to say whatever he wanted if he'd just desist from the crap he was engaging in. I do NOT call that "taking no shit".
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 08:35 PM
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5. Moran did that?
What the hell was THAT about?

Terry was there - wow, aren't we special?

Big mistake, Jim. Really big mistake. I'm very disappointed, and shall call his office tomorrow, registering my disapproval.

Thanks...........................
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 08:41 PM
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9. yeah, he did. t he thing is, I think he started off pretty well
he wasn't exactly gripping in his remarks prior to introducing Dean- he went on for an hour, but it seems that Terry really, really rattled him. It was clear that Terry didn't rattle Dean at all. In fact Dean was pretty clearly laughing at him. Anyway, Moran tried to appease Terry. Bad, bad, bad move.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 08:37 PM
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6. You missed a treat
Believe me.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 08:40 PM
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8. I'm not too thrilled to learn
that Jim gave Randall Terry such a platform.

But, otherwise, how was it?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 08:42 PM
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10. Terry didn't take Moran up on it. he didn't have enough self control
to stop yelling baby killer at Howard.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 08:43 PM
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11. Platform sis?
He didn't give him a platform - he had security throw him out of the room.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 08:48 PM
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12. He got thrown out?
OK, I'm getting conflicting stories here.

Read this sub-thread - I'm confused.

What actually happened?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 09:04 PM
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15. here's exactly what happened: Randall Terry stood up and started
screaming baby killer at Howard Dean shortly after Dean took the stage. Then Moran got up and said you're not from this district you don't belong here. He asked that Terry be escorted from the room, but then reversed himself and told Terry that if he he'd cut out the disruption he could have the first question and five minutes to say whatever he wanted. Terry did not shut the fuck up and kept screaming baby killer at Howard. Subsequently, the fuckwad was escorted out.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 09:10 PM
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17. Oh, OK -
that's very reasonable, and very different from what I was initially led to believe.

Getting the whole story always is better.

Jim did the right thing, I think - giving him some room, and then throwing him out. I'd rather my Congressman err on the side of civility, even for a scant five minutes, than to do something peremptory, leaving himself open to charges of intolerance.

Thank you for the clarification. My faith in my Congressman (former mayor, long-time friend and neighbor) remains intact.................
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 09:12 PM
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19. I think it was a big mistake. you don't reward someone yelling baby killer. period. ever.
not in that venue or any venue I can imagine. it was just wrong.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 09:13 PM
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20. You're not thinking like a politician,
one who knows the cameras are on.

You do exactly what Jim did - and, believe me, he was prepared for this.

You give them a reasonable deal, and when they violate it, you get them thrown out.

He did just fine..............................
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KatyaR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 10:53 PM
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22. Someone posted a link to some video:
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 09:06 PM
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16. Terry was thrown out AFTER Moran offered to give him the first question...
when it came time for the Q&A session. Terry refused to calm down and kept shouting "Howard Dean is a baby killer." His minions were escorted out as well, but there were plenty of assholes left. But they were in the minority, as was to be expected.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 08:59 PM
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14. he offered him the first question and 5 minutes to speak if he'd
behave. of course terry couldn't stop screaming baby killer at howard, but that was Moran's offer and it was wrong, wrong, wrong. Not sure how you missed it, but you did.
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Tangerine LaBamba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 09:12 PM
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18. Now sure how I missed it?
Well, I was busy with my own personal life. What a strange thing for you to write.

But, I disagree that it was wrong. I'm proud of my Congressman for being remarkably tolerant and polite.

I'll call him tomorrow anyway, and leave a message telling him that he's still got my vote................................
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 08:39 PM
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7. Well I expected something quite a bit different when I clicked on this thread
I would pay money to see an actual "moran town hall".
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 08:58 PM
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13. Turn on C-Span now the REAL Moran is on.....
Edited on Tue Aug-25-09 09:21 PM by demodonkey

Lisa Murkowski, R Senator from Alaska. She looks, sounds, and thinks like a slightly more shriveled up version of Miss Quit-N-Run, AKA Caribou Barbie.

On edit: Her perky-voiced answers are peppered with "I'm gunna" and "we gotta" etc etc -- will not be surprised to hear a "you betcha" any minute.

:puke:

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-25-09 09:56 PM
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21. I watched ALL of it . . . Moran was great - so was Howard Dean . . .
Randall Terry was treated with more than necessary courtesy by Moran . . .
who offered him the opportunity to stay and ask a question/5 minutes worth to
say what he wanted to say - - but then abide by the rules and stop chanting.
Terry decided to be arrested, instead!

Loved the crowd shouting "Throw him out!"

Good show for everyone -- the 99% responsible and intelligent audience -- and the
few overly aggressive and ridiculous anti-health care idiots.

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