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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:25 PM
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Keith is trying
he TRIED to get Jesse Jackson to comment on the litany of hate-filled remarks made by the likes of Limbaugh, Beck, and Bortz but Jesse Jackson is being blinded by this subject alone...this conversation needs to go forward to political discourse made every single day on the radio by these people entrusted to OUR airwaves...keep trying Keith
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:27 PM
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1. True, but Jackson made some good points too.
I really appreciated him bringing up the misogyny aspect. We're talking about it here but not enough is being made of it on the MSM.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:33 PM
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2. Hats off to Jesse, Al and all the American citizens who woke up
and said, Enough is Enough!

Hats off to the Real Champions of Rudgers University!
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:37 PM
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3. jesse has made a multitude of even worse remarks.
jesse has blackmailed companies into giving his sons competition free monopolies on beer/alcohol distributorships in Illinois. He has blackmailed large corporations to fund his personal life style. Jesse is a criminal. period. I onyl wish KO had read a few books and articles that I have.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:43 PM
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5. He Shook Down CBS-TV
In the 80s he led constant boycotts of the local CBS TV station to force them to hire more blacks...or so was his claim. The truth was he got a large contribution to Rainbow-PUSH and went away. Then he started to do the same thing at the NBC affiliate.

While I'm a big critic of Imus and am glad he's fired...the one thing I can agree with the Imus defenders and appologists with (as well as Jon Stewart) as to how Jackson is viewed as the "uber-black"...that somehow getting Jackson or Sharpton's blessing would somehow remove a lifetime of racism and mysogony. Imus thought all he had to do was grovel to Sharpton and that would be the end...or throw some money at Sickle Cell. I found it totally disengenous from all involved.

My hopes were (and still are), that MSNBC will use those two weeks and give some air time to folks like Tavis Smiley, Tom Joyner, Roland Martin and other black voices...lets hear what they have to say, not Jackson or Sharpton.
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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:51 PM
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7. Yes
Jesse is irrelavant at this point. But bring any of this up, and you are tarred as racist. I tuned in to Keith and heard Jesse and Al Sharpton and thought-not again. Like this other poster points out, there are plenty of intelligent, non ethically compromised black people to talk to. But, he's probably going to ride out as the go to guy for black issues. The other thing is, I can't understand him anymore.
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:38 PM
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4. As much as I like Keith...The more I listen to him on his show...
The MORE I like him.

This man is Gold.

Thanks for all you do, Keith!
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:45 PM
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6. NObody's God...not even
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 07:45 PM by Gabi Hayes
God

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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:53 PM
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8. God? I called him Gold. Maybe I should have written "Golden"?
Ya think?
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:11 PM
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9. I think the Rutger's coach made great points about all of the hate...
People are sick to death of this crap.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:16 PM
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11. Her comments are the most important
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 08:22 PM by malaise
contribution to this entire saga.

Here's the best article on Imus

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/2007/04/11/imus_and_beyond.php
<snip>
If the past is any guide, that is a sure bet. Imus has a long and sordid history of trafficking in racism, sexism, homophobia and xenophobia. And a lot of people who consider themselves reputable—both Democratic and Republican politicians, political consultants, journalists and pundits—have shacked up in this seedy AM radio motel as if it were a five-star forum for serious political discourse. They knew better, as did the advertisers who bankrolled this enterprise and the networks that broadcast it. They have no one to blame but themselves for the soil on their own images as a result, and for whatever consequences they face if they go back in.

Imus keeps saying that he is a “good person” who said “a bad thing,” but that’s not the full truth.

As far back as 2000, TomPaine.com was chronicling the sewage spewing from Imus’ microphone in a series of articles by Philip Nobile and others that reached back into programs that aired years before.
But this is not just about Imus. It may be too much to expect that the dozens of radio and TV personalities who serve up on-air bigotry as pseudo-news and entertainment will be reasonably constrained by the corporations that sign their paychecks. But what we can do is deny them continued legitimacy. Politicians who want our votes and journalists who want our trust should not be appearing on their shows; if they do, ask why they consented to be on a program that has regularly broadcast slurs against people of color, women and gays and lesbians. Make advertisers feel uncomfortable for being associated with such shows, especially those that have refused to support progressive radio alternatives.

Finally, the next time Imus or another one of these jocks utters a slur, let’s not leave the targets of the slur alone to fend for themselves. When Imus slandered those Rutgers players, he wasn’t simply denigrating young women on a basketball court with one of the foulest of slurs. Anyone who believes that every person should be treated with dignity should feel the defamation and be moved to act on their outrage. That’s what progressives do.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:28 PM
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14. I AGREE!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:15 PM
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10. Jackson stated that this must be the beginning not the end.
:shrug:
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:19 PM
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12. I was...
screaming at the TV while Jesse Jackson was on. For some reason or another, I love MSNBC. I get my news from them, and one day I would like to either work for NBC or MSNBC. So when Jesse Jackson made his baseless claim that there are no people of color on MSNBC or any other cable news network TWICE, I got upset. I was happy both David Gregory and KO responded back to his accusation by pointing out that Allison Stewart is a host for them.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:27 PM
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13. I did not hear the words "NO" people. I think he communicated that it was a mostly white
venture?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:30 PM
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15. I'm not sure
But when he talked to David Gregory earlier in the week, he said None. When Gergory pointed this out, he ignored it and brought up the point again. I dont like Jackson using what Imus said as a reason to forward his agenda. I think these are two separate issues. Plus, he criticized all of the news stations, and I dont normally watch CNN, but I have seen at least a few Minority hosts on that network.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:53 PM
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18. Welcome by the way.
I think "his" agenda is shared by all of us. I also think MSNBC should fill his slot with Allison Steward. ;)
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 10:58 PM
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19. Have they forgotten about Lester Holt?
He hasn't been very high profile lately, but I think he's still on their payroll.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 11:23 PM
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21. Doesnt he work
for NBC news now instead of MSNBC? Early on to me, he and Brian Williams were the faces of that network.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:41 PM
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17. I rather JJ not ask for more people of color on MSNBC...
They make listen and hire blacks like Alan Keyes or Armstrong Williams. :eyes:
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 11:22 PM
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20. Yeah I kept having visions of that the way these program
managers think. Or J. C. Watts though I think he's tied to CNN?
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:35 PM
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16. The RW media hacks need to go.
Far worse than Imus because they are truly hate-based. They know what they are saying and they mean it.
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