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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:41 PM
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Breaking News: Obama's death panel has decided to let me die
They said that I was too old/that I had a pre-existing condition/that I was receiving an "experimental treatment"/etc.

Sorry everyone, but Obama and his panel of subjective "experts" who don't even know me have said I should just die.

Oh, I'm sorry, what's that? It wasn't a government panel, but an insurance company's decision that has said I should just die.

Never mind then. No need to be outraged :). The insurance company clearly knows what's best for me, right?
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:43 PM
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1. Well said!
:kick: and REC'D!
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protect our future Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:53 PM
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5. Rec'd and kicked NT
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:47 PM
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2. This is exactly what gets me.
These grossly uninformed idiots are so concerned about the government, but they don't even think about how many times insurance companies deny coverage or decide someone should not have an operation, or worse, DIE because it would delve into their profits. I have no tolerance for such willful ignorance. At least the government gives a shit once We, The People redress our grievances. Health Insurance companies, not so much. All they care about is the bottom line.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:54 PM
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7. exactly. they keep saying
that a government bureaucrat will decide. how about insurance company bureaucrats?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:48 PM
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3. Raising the question - who is the real stakeholder?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:51 PM
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4. Actually, if they refuse to give everyone a decent
level of health care, there ought to be a law that would allow a person to have themselves euthanized. There's only so much suffering people can take. Even the family pet gets put out of its misery humanely.
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pengillian101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 10:34 PM
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19. Tthere ought to be a law !
"Actually, if they refuse to give everyone a decent level of health care, there ought to be a law that would allow a person to have themselves euthanized. There's only so much suffering people can take. Even the family pet gets put out of its misery humanely."

That's exactly the problem - do you want to be euthanized by the government instead of your own family/loved ones pulling the plug? You want to give this over to the government to do? That's what it sounds like you are saying. Why wouldn't we still receive a decent level of care?

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 06:44 AM
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21. My comment was tongue-in-cheek.
The "Party of No" seems intent on allowing us to die slow and painful deaths, so they should embrace the notion of euthanasia.
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pengillian101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:44 PM
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28. Me also.
My comment was tongue-in-cheek.
Posted by Vinca


The "Party of No" seems intent on allowing us to die slow and painful deaths, so they should embrace the notion of euthanasia.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:53 PM
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6. And with the government running the show, you could atleast vote to
express your discomfort with the coverage.

With the so-called Freeartket at work, your on your own, sucker!!!!
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:55 PM
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8. I'd much rather have a group of gov. folks deciding if a treatment is covered....
...based on a set of clear and specific guidelines, than an insurance company deciding based on what is best for the shareholders and their personal bank accounts.
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:57 PM
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10. What if the govt folks are Repukes?
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:02 PM
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11. I'd rather have a government repuke making that decision than a private sector repuke.
Seems pretty simple.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 08:33 AM
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23. The government would spend money on you, the private sector would try to cheap you out.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 01:56 PM
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9. a for-profit company would surely have your best interests at heart
right?

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:11 PM
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12. Now you're getting it!
See, we have to protect the profit. I'm sure you understand.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:13 PM
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13. insurance companies = death panels
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 11:33 AM
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27. That should be a bumper sticker. k/r nt
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 02:18 PM
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14. Euthanasia practiced by for-profit insurance companies is a.o.k. with those of the 'puke ideological
persuasion if not on their own. :P
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 03:00 PM
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15. And when the insured...
flat told the insurance person on the phone (and confirmed by five doctors who had written on her behalf) "without this treatment I will die".

The response? "Okay".
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wildflowergardener Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 06:08 PM
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16. Sorry
I'm sorry - if what you say is true and not just a story to illustrate something.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 07:22 PM
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17. Aetna is also giving me a hard time regarding tests.
My Dr. or my spouse have to argue the point for me. So, do I want a government bureaucrat deciding my health care or an insurance bean counter, I'll go with the bureaucrat.

I have 2 major illnesses which would be considered 'pre-existing conditions'. If my husband were to lose his job I am so 'screwn'.

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 07:24 PM
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18. Why have a bunch of government bureaucrats making that decision?
When private insurers have it down to a science?
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-09-09 11:26 PM
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20. Insurance companies are more caring, I suppose. Does anyone really think they care about the money?
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 06:51 AM
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22. Yet another example of greatness from the "Party of We Don't Know What Were MAD About".
Actually they do. It's that their president is black, but they'll make you think it's about the horrific thought of receiving pre-existing condition-free health care at a less costly price. Oh, and don't forget that weird . . . Red Menace thing they cannot seem to let go of, even though it's 2009 and they never got the memo that there really wasn't a plausible Communist threat no matter how much our politicians overblew it.
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Sansego Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 10:06 AM
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24. Obama's death panel
How is it Obama's death panel, when you know it is the insurance company (private sector, not government) that is making the decision to let you die? When it is Obama that is trying to come up with an alternative to the problem you just described. Are you under the opinion that the government runs the insurance companies? It is quite the opposite. It is your health insurance company's death panel not Obama's.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 10:09 AM
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25. ...
Edited on Mon Aug-10-09 10:10 AM by ck4829
I think that a :sarcasm: sometimes ruins a post, let's just leave it at that.
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-10-09 11:31 AM
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26. right on! knr
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:46 PM
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29. Did ACORN members stop by your house, as promised? n/t
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pengillian101 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 08:49 PM
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30. Best to ya, buddy.
Hope you get well!

:-)
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-11-09 09:36 PM
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31. The problem is that we promoters of single payer weren't PREPARED.
We knew this war was going to erupt, but we didn't start preparing for this YEARS ago.

Now here we are.
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