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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:34 AM
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The Main Stream Media reporting on the Gingrich-Kerry debate on global climate crisis
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 07:56 AM by Mass
Two politicians actually debating on current issues, exchanging ideas and not attacks. You could think that this is a rare enough event that the media would actually report and comment on it.


Two main points in this debate:

- Gingrich admitting the Inhoffe was wrong and that global warming was man-made and dangerous- Granted: Inhoffe is probably the last dinosaur not to believe in global warming, but I guess there has to be a last dinosaur in every crisis - However I wonder how many times the media would have played a scene where Kerry states Boxer is wrong!).

- a clear presentation of two different visions of how to solve the crisis: the "laisser-faire" conservative philosophy held by Newt (give us lofty tax breaks and the market will take care of it, which is I guess the philosophy that led to the Great Depression), and the more classically progressive vision presented by Kerry (the government needs to set the standards and the right incentives, then the market will take care of it, probably closer to the New Deal philosophy).

So, how did the media report on that:

As far as I could see, Most cable and broadcast TV channels did not. No 30 seconds soundbytes, I guess, that they could have inserted... Or, may be Larry Berkhead being the father of Anna Nicole Smith's baby and the nth clip on Don Imus was more important. One exception was Blitzer, whose coverage was nearly irrelevant to the issue.

The print media seem to have been more receptive to the event. AP had his own report, which was reproduced by most papers, starting by the Herald" Kerry, Gingrich debate global warming.

The worse came with an absolutely inept article in the Washington Post written by no other than Dana Milbank: Kerry and Gingrich Hugging Trees -- and (Almost) Each Other - No comment, there is another thread about it.

Some other papers decided to all have their reporting:

The LATimes: Kerry, Gingrich agree on global warming, disagree on solutions

The Chicago Tribune : Warmth prevails at climate debate - Gingrich, Kerry spar on how to fix problem (which spends more time talking about the supposed inadequacies of the speakers than about the debate by itself)

The Boston Globle, which surprisingly, titled on Gingritch: Gingrich drops skepticism on global warming
The Denver Post Wire Services: http://currentargus.com/ci_5637359">Kerry and Gingrich debate remedy for global warming

The best surprisingly comes from the McClatchy media (even though envelopped by a lot of snark), which recognizes that such a debate on ideas is fairly rare these days:



But in fairness, both brought to the debate - sponsored by New York University's John Brademas Center for the Study of Congress - attributes that typically aren't seen in the slick recitation of party-sponsored talking points that generally passes for debate in Washington, D.C:

-Ideas buttressed by facts.

- A willingness to recognize the limitations of rigid ideologies.

- An interest in listening as well as speaking.

- Quick wits and quicker minds.


And the Washington Times has, comparatively to the rest of the media, a comparatively good reporting
Gingrich, Kerry debate fix for climate change

Conclusion: the media complain there is no ideas debate among pols anymore, but, when there is one, they do not recognize it and spend half of their reporting on unrelated facts.

Bloggers reported too:

Bill Scher, from Liberal Oasis and Common Sense, largely focused on Gingrich's take on the issue, but granted some praise on Kerry's framing of the question.

http://commonsense.ourfuture.org/newt_tries_shift_global_warming_debate

...
Newt also derided a firm cap on carbon emissions as a “bureaucracy and litigation” strategy. Kerry quickly rejected the false frame, noting that the same claims were lobbed at sulfur dioxide caps, and were proven wrong.

Kerry rightly noted that without our government to “set a standard,” and put a price on carbon pollution, we won’t get the job done:

The major CEOs … say they need the cap set, in order to give the marketplace the certitude and the incentive, for people to put the money in, and have a long-term capital investment that’s worthwhile.
...


Blue Climate has its take also:
http://www.blueclimate.com/blueclimate/2007/04/the_john_kerryn.html

This debate was one of the more enjoyable ones on this subject that I have seen. It was made that way in large part because Kerry and Gingrich did not spend time with pointless arguments over whether global warming was occuring and whether it was caused by humans. As one would expect, John Kerry made the case that climate change science is in and that it is urgent that we address the problem. In fact, the urgency of the issue was a point he repeatedly returned to. More surprising was Newt Gingrich's general agreement with Kerry on state of the science. In fact, when John Kerry asked him what Gingrich would say to skeptics like Senator Inhofe, Gingrich said that the science is well enough established that we should accept it.

The major disagreement between them was about the fastest way to solve the climate change problem. I will discuss that below but first it was also evident that, despite the fact that both Kerry and Gingrich accept the science, they have different starting points when discussing solutions.
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As did Grist, focusing on Gingrich's change of mind on the issue:

http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/4/10/114741/704

John Kerry and Newt Gingrich squared off on climate change this morning. The result? Gingrich committed to the statement that something needs to be done and distanced himself from partisan brethren like Inhofe. He also dropped a line about a need for some "green conservatism."
...


And we have all seen the reports by Think Progress, with Gingritch agreeing that Inhoffe is wrong.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/10/gingrich-kerry-inhofe/
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:51 AM
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1. spelling: Newt Gingrich
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 07:52 AM by Eric J in MN
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 07:53 AM
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2. Thanks...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:00 AM
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3. Good rundown. And Milbank is determined to be seen merely as a gossip columnist
as he focuses on anything BUT substance of any DC event.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 08:22 AM
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4. All the more reason to just tune out and turn off Main Stream Media
....I gave up my TV cable and satellite services over a year ago, canceled my subscriptions to my local newspaper and the three main news weekly magazines and rely exclusively on the internet for my daily news. My monthly visits to my doctors are sufficient to allow me to glance through two to four week old news magazines and selectively extract out pertinent stories that I may wish to get MSM slant on the issues. I also have an excellent set of rabbit ear antennae to my TV to catch the Sunday news programs, but I find even these to be of marginal value in providing any insights about what is really happening in the world.

Your summary above Mass, saved me the agony of sitting through yet another resurrection of the pompous pumpkin-headed Newt from Georgia grasping for a political toehold on the precipitous bluff of the Grand Old Party in its death struggle to keep its putrid corrupted body politic on life support through yet another political season. If Newt were to take the lead and give up the Holy Ghost and go to meet his maker today, I would join in a half a minute of silence and then move forward with my own affairs reassured that this could be a sign from above that God is again giving America another chance to save itself.

I have loved and respected John Kerry for many years and will go on supporting his place as an outstanding Democratic Senator as long as he chooses to continue to serve in that capacity. That includes any and all efforts he puts forward on bills to clean up the environment to reduce carbon emissions and hold major polluters criminally liable for their irresponsibility and callous neglect of health and safety to human, animal and plant life on our planet. I won't however, support him in another run for the presidency.

Thanks for reading and thank you for the summary post.
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