LOOK LOOK LOOK - Template Found for Fake Kenyan BC

[Adelante]

This is a post from Politijab

http://politijab.com

It was a scanned image of a "Certified Copy of Registration of Birth" dated in 1964 for a David Jeffrey Bomford on a genealogy website for the Bomford family. Except that David Jeffrey Bomford wasn't born in Kenya, he was born in South Australia. But what was even more interesting was certain other features of the document as compared to the Kenya certificate.

The names of the registrar and the district registrar were the SAME NAMES as given in the Kenya certificate save for the first initials, i.e. G.H. Lavender and J.H. Miller in the Bomford document versus E.H. Lavender and M.H. Miller in the Kenya document.

Also, the book number (44B) and page number (5733) were the exactly the same on both documents.

The image of the Bomford certificate seems to prove beyond any doubt that not only is the Kenya certificate a fake, but that whomever faked it used the Bomford certificate as the template.

[WeDidIt]

1. HA!

HAHA!
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HAHAHAHAHA!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

:rofl:

[Name removed]

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[Drunken Irishman]

2. Spooky how similar the Australia and Kenyan birth certificate templates are.

;)

[malaise]

Not at all

Ours are identical - British colonialism.

[Bicoastal]

63. Yer missing the point.

They're EXACTLY the same--right down to the names of the registrars and the inscribed numbers at the top.

As in, Photoshopped.

[malaise]

80. I didn't miss that

My point is that the morans could have used a birth certificate from any British colony. Fugg the birthers - we all know they are stupid morans who have long been discredited.

[Drunken Irishman]

86. I was talking about just how everything was similar.

Everything. Not just the template, but right down to the numbers.

However, remember, Kenya wasn't a British colony when the Kenyan 'BC' was released (1964).

Though I guess they could have had the template from when they were. But that wouldn't explain why it says REPUBLIC OF KENYA.

[MADem]

122. It was a Dominion at that stage, and Mombasa was still part of Zanzibar!

The whole thing is a huge joke on the nutcases.

[canetoad]

124. The Commonwealth

used to buy printing plates in bulk and pass them on.

[NutmegYankee]

3. Pwned!

You should change the title to indicate the template was found.

[Adelante]

5. Thank you - I did that

:hi:

[NutmegYankee]

10. Your welcome!

:thumbsup: :hi:

[Bicoastal]

4. BWAHAHAHA!!!!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Scurrilous]

6. LOL

K&R :thumbsup:

[wtbymark]

7. Doh!!

:rofl:

[WeDidIt]

8. Looks like the raised seal on the fake Kenyan BC was a Kenyan coin

It's where they got the seal for the top of the thing, too.

[ColbertWatcher]

121. That is the actual coat of arms for Kenya ...

http://www.kenya-information-guide.com/african-lion.html

Scroll down to the "African Lion - a Symbol of Kenya's Pride " section.

[Spazito]

9. Oh oh, Orly's not gonna like that, not one little bit!

Here's the birfer one:



Notice the 7s. 6d. in the left hand corner on BOTH of them.

Dang if they didn't use the same printer!

This is delicious!

:rofl:

[bemildred]

25. Apparently the decimal currency was introduced in 1966.

I was wondering about the shillings and pence.

[Bicoastal]

11. Wait--does this mean "G F Lavender" was a REAL PERSON?!

Holy crap.

[Drunken Irishman]

13. His BFF is H.R. Pufnstuf...

[SilverFoxLady]

Real

Dang. Looks like it.

[Drunken Irishman]

49. LMFAO.

You're not even trying to be subtle, are you?

[MADem]

136. Ha ha ha !!!!

That "Dang" kinda bites one in the ankle, doesn't it?

[Jo March]

129. It can't be real. It lists his name as a "Christian" name

Everyone knows he's a 'muslin'!!

:eyes:

[alcibiades_mystery]

60. The forger changed it from GF Lavender (presumably a real person)

to EF Lavender, the laundry detergent. Notice that the number of the certificate was also changed to 47O44, and several posters quite correctly nailed that gem as 47 year old Obama 44th President. Clever forger, clever readers!

[MADem]

135. Yes, but EEEEEE Eff Lavender is a laundry detergent.

It a play on a real name. An inside joke.

[Bolo Boffin]

12. ORLY?

[mikelgb]

14. ROTFLOL!

:rofl:

[Cha]

44. This is serious shit.

:rofl:

[Turborama]

114. Love your avatar!

& the pic

:rofl:

[Control-Z]

127. OMG. That looks

just like her.

[guitar man]

145. Bravo!!!

:applause::applause::applause:

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

well done!!

[gmoney]

15. You think they'd at least find a real KENYAN birth certificate to start from...

Oh, darn... I think I just gave them an idea!

[WolverineDG]

108. That would require them to do research nt

[El Supremo]

16. Sorry, but that is the Great Seal of Kenya not South Australia >>

[El Supremo]

22. Here is South Australia's >>

The one you show is different than the so-called Obama Kenya one.

[Bicoastal]

24. Yeah, and I suppose both registrars flew from Australia to Kenya...

...JUST to make sure Barack Obama Sr's kid had a legit birth certificate.

Makes perfect sense.

[Drunken Irishman]

26. If you look at the "original" Kenyan BC, the seal is different than the one above.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/Fake-Obama-Kenya-birth-certificate

It's the one you've posted. But that isn't the same as shown on the South Australian BC.

They probably cropped out the So. Australian one and added the Kenyan one.

[jberryhill]

27. That's not the seal on the document above

Look at the seal in the OP. The lower part of the shield has a rising sun, not a pattern of stripes, and certainly doesn't say Harambee on it.

[Drunken Irishman]

30. It's very possible the document contains an older seal of So. Australia.

Remember, this is from the 1950s.

[NutmegYankee]

70. It does. The 1936 version was replaced in 1984.

[Emit]

28. According to this link, the Great Seal of South Australia looks like this

http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/45600/45649/45649_seal_soaustr.htm



I'm not finding the Kenyan one. Where did you get that pic?

[Drunken Irishman]

29. The Kenyan one is on the Kenyan BC they're passing around as Obama's.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18018714/Fake-Obama-Kenya-birth-certificate

But if you look, it's the EXACT same version of the So. Australian BC, except with changes.

[Adelante]

76. My understanding from a Brit is it's the British seal

But I don't know about these things. :shrug:

[NutmegYankee]

79. It's the South Australian Coat of arms from before 1984.

The original Coat of Arms of South Australia was granted by His Majesty King Edward VIII on the 100th anniversary of South Australia's foundation on November 20, 1936.

The shield featured a golden rising sun on a blue background, with the top or chief in white featuring three bundles or panicles of wheat. The crest featured a golden lion of England passant guardant (walking, right front paw raised, facing the viewer), in front of a blue flag with the Southern Cross in white. The supporters were a woman holding a "horn of plenty" and a male shearer holding scissors and wool. Two branches of golden wattle were at the bottom, along with the motto "Faith and Courage".


The 1984 Coat-of-Arms

Over the years it was felt that the 1936 Coat-of-Arms was inappropriate, since it did not feature the Piping Shrike (a fictitious bird commonly assumed to be either an Australian magpie or Magpie-lark), the state emblem of South Australia which appears on the state flag. Therefore the South Australian government sought to replace the old coat-of-arms, and the present coat of arms was conferred by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II on April 19, 1984.

[El Supremo]

32. Right click the picture and follow the url path.

But yes the one that says South Australia is slightly different than the Obama one. I wonder why?

[NutmegYankee]

34. The South Australian Coat of arms changed in 1984.

The one from 1936-1984 had a female figure holding a conucopia and a sheaf of barley, as well as a farmer holding a pair of shears and a fleece of wool as supporters. The crest showed a staff with a banner with the five stars of the Southern Cross and a lion. The motto was 'Faith and Courage.'





The Faith and Courage can be seen on the fake Kenyan certificate.

http://www.ngw.nl/int/aus/southaus.htm

[Drunken Irishman]

36. That's the same seal, minus the woman, that's on the So. Australian BC.

I think we figured this one out.

Someone obviously took a South Australian BC and doctored it up to look like a Kenyan one.

FUCKING IDIOTS! HAHA

[El Supremo]

45. Thanks!

They sure were similar.

[WeDidIt]

99. HAHA

Freepers have used the current seal to "prove" the Bomford certificate is a fake.

:evilgrin:

[NutmegYankee]

100. You just got to drop a link for that!

[WeDidIt]

104. Here's one

I'm over there doin' this:

:popcorn:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2307402/posts?page=678#678

[NutmegYankee]

113. It's a freak show over there!

[Uncle Joe]

17. Didn't Rupert Murdoch obtain his own birth certificate in Australia as well?

I wonder if he's connected to this?

[eleny]

18. So this is why people had a hard time nailing down the font

Perhaps there's more than one - the original and the one used in the Photoshoping.

[NutmegYankee]

23. If you look closely at the Crackhead version, you'll notice the the nil for living is photo-shopped

while the nil for deceased is the original.

[eleny]

51. Yes, that was the specific puzzle!

[WeDidIt]

42. That's precisely what happened

Schmutz was used in the photoshopping where new characters were required.

Where possible, characters were lifted from this document.

That's what confused me.

[eleny]

48. I remember your posting on this issue from yesterday

Nice to learn the reason for the differences!

[BumRushDaShow]

19. LOL

:popcorn:

:rofl:

[Fuzz]

20. It doesn't prove anything. I might just indicate someone created the Bomford certificate

to cast doubt on the Obama certificate.*







*Actual Freeper Post

[Drunken Irishman]

21. lol

[thereismore]

31. Lobotomy doesn't hurt. nt

[jberryhill]

37. server file dates

Oh... let them figure it out.

[theothersnippywshrub]

75. Wayback Machine shows the page linking to this certicate as of October 13, 2006.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.bomford.net/worcestershire/treeconcise.htm

And this page contains a workable link to David Jeffrey Bomford's Certified Copy of Registration of Birth http://www.bomford.net/worcestershire/treeconcise.htm

I think that since Obama was brilliant enough to create and plant this information so many years ago, the birthers should consider how lucky they are to have such an intelligent and competent president.

[Adelante]

81. Thank you for finding that

:)

[ohheckyeah]

120. No birth certificate at those links. n/t

[Adelante]

128. The Australian has taken his BC down since yesterday

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2646009.htm

[SilverFoxLady]

33. Don't give up.

Don't give up guys. This actually looks very bad because here's proof of a BC from the same time and they can compare the two to prove that his is real. I don't like this. Not one bit. It's looking real. But how?

[WeDidIt]

35. Um

:wtf:

[Drunken Irishman]

39. hahahaudhy7eqwyr734654365

:rofl:

[kirby]

52. Damn you for publishing my password - off to change it... n/t

[Adelante]

38. Welcome to DU

Dream on :hi:

[gmoney]

40. Huh?

[Bicoastal]

41. BWAHAHAHAHA!!! YOU'RE THE WORST FUCKING TROLL I'VE EVER ENCOUNTERED!!

:spray:

[Sultana]

43. Go away TROLL!

[tjwash]

46. How indeed?

That is the question.

Yes.

[valerief]

50. Prep much? nt

[TommyO]

53. Did you miss the entire point of this message

The supposed "Obama birth certificate" that the right-wing is carrying on about is a fraud, a fake, a phony, a fabrication.

On a side note, how long do you plan on staying?

[Skittles]

56. how?

how about you pull your head out of your ass?

[Spazito]

57. ROFLMAO!

Ummmmm, hmmmmmm, gee, how do I break this to you gently......


Oh, fuck it, teh stoopid is too strong in this one!

[Cha]

58. It's bad for fucking freepers because

they have nothing but a fake Kenyan BC and a real Hawaiian BC for President Obama.

Poor fucking idiots.

[eleny]

61. You must be tuckered out from attending town halls, huh?

Poor little troll.

[Liberal Veteran]

62. Welcome to DU. I cooked you up something to welcome you!

[TommyO]

65. What kind of pizza is that?

[Liberal Veteran]

66. That's not pizza! It's oily taters.

[TommyO]

73. I was coming back to answer my own question!

I get it, I get it!

[Drunken Irishman]

67. Jesus, what he hell is that?!?

[Liberal Veteran]

69. A batch of oily taters. I hear the new poster loves them.

:D

[tanyev]

64. Aw, I'm touched by your concern.

Touched.

[Ikonoklast]

68. I fixed it for you.

Don't give up guys. This actually looks very bad because here's proof of a BC from the same time and they can compare the two to prove that his is real. I don't like this. Not one bit. It's looking real. But how stupid am I?

[SOS]

72. Uh huh

Australian G.F. Lavender had a brother named E.F. Lavender who worked in Kenya.
A whole family of roving registrars for the British Empire.
Another brother, B.F. Lavender, worked at the DMV in Jamaica.

:rofl:

[NYC_SKP]

82. SilverFoxLady! SilverFoxLady!!! PM me RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!11!!1

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=243909

Never mind...

[DainBramaged]

84. Awwwwwwwww you got a pizza, so sad, too bad dumbass...

[Hepburn]

106. Hi, and welcome to the DU. I have a few presents for you:

BTW: What do you like on your pizza?

[WolverineDG]

109. Enjoy your stay!

:spray: :rofl:

dg

[csziggy]

111. And entered in the same book on the same page - sure.

For a Republic that did not exist in a city that was not part of that Republic until years later. How could this possibly be considered real?

[Marr]

118. lol- Christ, you people are sad.

It's no wonder those Republican politicians treat you like chumps. You *are* chumps.

[kirby]

47. Isn't Rupert Murdoch from Australia?

I *knew* all paths lead to him - case closed!

[GreenPartyVoter]

55. OMG! All RW conspiracies connect back to Murdoch within 6 degrees!

You are so on to something, here! :rofl:

[AnnInLa]

54. Also reported here

http://bit.ly/4ry2PG

put some shrimp on the barbie, kiss your shiela, and celebrate craziness

[AnnInLa]

59. more

from http://washingtonindependent.com

One of my friends in the small community of Obama “birther”-debunkers passes on quite the discovery: a 1964 “certified copy of registration of birth” from Australia, easily available on Bomford.net, a genealogy site. There are striking similarities between this document and the one Orly Taitz is passing off as a “Kenyan birth certificate” for Barack Obama.

- The design is identical, down to the seal at the top and the classifications (”Christian name,” etc) used for identifying the baby.

- The “registrar” on the Bomford document is G.F. Lavender. On the Taitz document, it’s E.F. Lavender.

- The “district registrar” on the Bomford document is J.H. Miller. On the Taitz document, it’s M.H. Miller.

- The number of the book is identical on both documents: Book 44B, Page 5733.

What’s more likely — that two Kenyan bureaucrats shared last names with two Australian bureaucrats, and that the numbers on both certificates were identical? Or that someone used this document, available online for anyone who wanted to look, to forge the Obama “certificate?”

[Drunken Irishman]

71. The top is the same as well (7s. 6d. No 495).

[NYC_SKP]

83. ALSO: Bottom of Page, "Book 44B, Page 5733", identical to the Fake Certificate.

They're on to it at F.R. now.

Too Funny!!!

:rofl:

[WeDidIt]

74. FREEPERS NOW CONVINCED THIS IS A FORGERY!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[ecstatic]

78. A forgery placed on the site 3 years ago?

:crazy:

[ecstatic]

77. The author of the fake BC must have leaked this

LOL! Hilarious!

[Drunken Irishman]

85. Actually...

The original BC (shown above) was posted on some genealogy site three years ago.

Obviously the person who doctored this found it online, 'shopped it and then printed it out.

Notice it's not scanned or a file where you can clearly make out the document? There is a reason. It's harder to identify a forgery when it's a picture of it and not a scanning of it.

[ecstatic]

87. Yeah but how in the world did the Post find this,

if not due to a tip by the person who used it as a template?

[Bicoastal]

88. Simple...some dedicated soul on the Internet decided to do some research on the subject...

...read his own account http://politijab.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2099">here.

This guy is pretty awesome.

[Drunken Irishman]

90. Who knows.

I'm surprised at how quickly someone comes forward and says, "I can prove this is a forgery".

Things spread so fast on the internet, I wouldn't be surprised if someone who came across that BC on the genealogy site a year ago saw the doctored Obama BC and thought of the similarities. Then they went back and found the online BC from So. Australia and essentially found they matched.

[Bicoastal]

91. DI--check out what I posted above.

The dude's pretty awesome.

[Drunken Irishman]

94. Thanks.

Wow, that guy rocks.

Seriously.

[Adelante]

93. I can vouch for the person who found it

He's a member of Politijab, as am I. He found it by hard work.

If you want to read what he said, go here:

http://www.politijab.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=2099

The forum is usually members-only, but there is so much interest the site owner opened it up temporarily.

[Drunken Irishman]

96. Plus, he posted a link to the site he found the image on.

And from what I can tell, this site isn't connected to Obama or anyone that could be accused of covering this up.

It looks like someone fucking fooled the hell out of these idiot birthers.

Probably looked for birth cirticifactes online, found that one, doctored it up, printed the sucker out and then took a picture of it.

Case closed.

Well not really. I think the person who did this should be caught and possibly charged with fraud.

[Bicoastal]

97. I wonder how David Jeffrey Bomford would feel...

...if he ever catches word that thousands of nutjobs are now analyzing HIS birth certificate to see if it's real.

Of course, we're just assuming that the man in question exists. Maybe the next controversy will be--WHERE IS THE BOMFORD?! PROVE HE EXISTS! PRODUCE THE BOMFORD!!

:P

[troubleinwinter]

115. That's the dumbest comment I've read outside of FreeRepublic

I think the person who did this should be caught and possibly charged with fraud.

For WHAT?!!! Photoshopping a joke? There are so many jokes in that "document" that it took but a couple of hours to debunk it as a fake.

If Ed Hale paid any money for that thing, let him prove it. Ed is a renowned liar. If Ed says it... it's a lie. If Ed thought it was genuine, why does he claim to have sat on it for ten months, when his entire goal was to prevent Obama from being elected and from serving?

If Ed fell for a joke, so what? If you fell for it, so what? Maybe you sent Ed Hale donations based on his lies and that's why you see it as fraud? Ed is the fraud, not whoever made a joke.

[Drunken Irishman]

131. It's fraud!

It doesn't matter how long it takes to debunk, it appears this person was A) trying to pass this off as a real BC and B) most likely was going to sell it.

The realism of the forgery doesn't make it any less of a fraud.

Look at Mark Hoffman, who fooled the LDS Church into believing his doctored and FAKED documents were really the writings of Joseph Smith. It was FRAUD.

Some were easily debunked.

But it's still fraud.

[Hawkeye-X]

143. I tried to join but their captiva program

makes it REALLY impossible to read.

I e-mailed the admin asking them to change their program to something a bit easier to read.

[Adelante]

89. Forged Kenyan Document Splinters ‘Birther’ Movement

Eligibility Lawyers, Activists Worry That a Hoax Will Wreck Their Cause

By David Weigel 8/3/09 7:58 PM

Jon Chessoni, a first secretary at the Kenyan Embassy in Washington, can’t understand why his office gets so many baseless questions about whether Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

“It’s madness,” said Chessoni on Monday. “His father, in 1961, would not even have been in Kenya. When this matter first came up, the Kenyan government did its research and confirmed that these are all baseless claims.”

Nonetheless, Chessoni spent part of his day fielding inquiries about an image posted at the fringe conservative web site WorldNetDaily–a purported “certified copy of registration of birth” belonging to “Barack Hussein Obama II,” submitted by attorney Orly Taitz in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, part of her undying quest to get a judge to listen to the conspiracy theories about the 44th president of the United States. “I’m forcing the issue, where Obama will have to respond,” Taitz told the Website. “I am asking the judge to give me the power to subpoena the documents from the Kenyan embassy.”

-snip

The new focus on a bogus document from an anonymous source has riven the small community of activists who are trying to prove that Barack Obama cannot be president of the United States. The day after the image appeared online, prominent “birther” attorneys and activists worried that Taitz was doing real, irreversible damage to their movement. As she’s become the public face of the “birther cause”–on Monday, MSNBC labeled her a “leader” of the “birther movement”–other figures in the “birther” community are distancing themselves from her work and from this document.

more

http://washingtonindependent.com/53654/forged-kenyan-document-splinters-birther-movement

[berni_mccoy]

92. Freepers: "Boy that G.F. Levender and J.H. Miller sure do get around!"

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Adelante]

95. Book 44B - Page 5733

No way they can get around it :D

[sabrina 1]

98. So, does this mean that Obama will not

be fleeing the WH tonight to escape arrest?

And what about this law, without a doubt passed in anticipation of Obama winning the election and then being exposed as a citizen of Kenya:

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/uscode05/usc_sec_05_00005733----000-.html

TITLE 5 > PART III > Subpart D > CHAPTER 57 > SUBCHAPTER II > § 5733 Prev | Next § 5733. <\b>

§ 5733. Expeditious travel

The travel of an employee shall be by the most expeditious means of transportation practicable and shall be commensurate with the nature and purpose of the duties of the employee requiring such travel.

The inclusion of that number in the Birth Cert. must have been a signal to the FBI to 'go get him'! :rofl:

Anti-climax for sure. Poor, sad Freepers.

[The Stranger]

101. I'm not going to celebrate until the perpetrator of the fraud is imprisoned.

Neither should anyone else.

[eridani]

125. It isn't fraud if they planted a lot of clues to tip everyone off that it was a prank n/t

[HughMoran]

102. Wow, how pathetic

Republicans just aren't very smart.

[Liberal In Texas]

103. That's a hoot. All I can say is "47O44" !!!

[otohara]

105. When Will They Learn???

it's the internet(s) .... is our children learnin yet?

morans

[WeDidIt]

107. RIM JOBINSON NOW CALLING 12 YEAR LONG FREEPERS TROLLS OVER THIS!!!!!

To: saquin
Wrong about what, troll?



712 posted on Monday, August 03, 2009 8:34:30 PM by Jim Robinson (Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/jimrobfr)

Rim Jobinson has now gone full on totally over the top BIRTHER!!!

You can't make this shit up!

[Drunken Irishman]

110. For what?

Thinking it's real or thinking it's fake?

This birther movement is going to split the Republican Party. I LOVE IT!

[WeDidIt]

112. For saying Robinson was wrong about what was in the phony baloney Kenyan doc

It was over the "K. Lavender" vs. "E. LAvender" argument.

The Australian document is only an afterthought to these nutters!

[jimlup]

116. Wow! Guess we caught stuff that wasn't fake after all...

Like that G. F. Lavendar was a real person and stuff. Therefore the Kenyan one must be real right?
:sarcasm:

[BirminghamExaminer]

117. Isn't forgery illegal?

[MADem]

123. That thing is not a forgery--it's a joke, and only a moron would be taken in by it.

It's a tool to hoist birthers on their own petards.

[Drunken Irishman]

132. Is it a joke, though?

From all intent, it appears she was going to use this in the court of law until it was proven to be a forgery.

This seems far more than just a joke.

[MADem]

134. The joke was on HER. Somebody fucking with her sent her that, and she took the bait. NT

[Drunken Irishman]

138. We don't know that yet.

What's interesting is the dumb b**** still has it on her site.

[MADem]

141. She probably has nothing to do with "her" site--some mouthbreather likely

puts that shit up for her, and he's AWOL out of shame.

Didn't someone say she ran off to Israel?

[Drunken Irishman]

142. Wouldn't surprise me.

She probably realized she was in over her head and things were about to turn on her.

What I found interesting is that she doesn't even have basic understanding of the American constitution. She suggested Obama, even if born here, wouldn't be legal because his dad was foreign born and not a citizen.

[Adelante]

126. Australian Bomford on radio CONFIRMS his birth certificate

Adelaide man caught up in bid to oust Obama
Dina Rosendorff reported this story on Tuesday, August 4, 2009 18:36:00


The fake Kenyan birth document has been circulated by political opponents of Obama's, called the Birthers, who are out to unseat him.

A growing online community who are against the Birthers quickly picked apart the bogus birth certificate and traced it back to about as far from Kenya as you can get - Thebarton Community Hospital at Mile End in South Australia and David Jeffrey Bomford.

As for the unsuspecting man at the centre of the political storm, he says he's not a Birther - just a public service clerk from Adelaide.

-snip

DAVID JEFFREY BOMFORD: It's little old me and my mum and everything else up there. Oh I definitely confirm that the birth certificate was mine. That was quite easy to see - my address, even the style of the birth certificate was an old South Australian one.

So it's quite easy to identify that it's mine.

DINA ROSENDORFF: And looking at the fake Kenyan birth certificate what do you make of it?

DAVID JEFFREY BOMFORD: It's definitely a copy of my certificate. It's so laughable it's ridiculous.

-snip

DINA ROSENDORFF: Mr Bomford agrees with the experts and says he'll definitely be removing it from the website.

DAVID JEFFREY BOMFORD: I'm very surprised at how anyone would even find it on the net unless they were looking for something like that because it's buried on a little known research site that's particularly for my family.

So I was very, very surprised that anyone would even find it on the net. I'll be certainly contacting my friend who runs that web and asking him to remove it.

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2646009.htm

[igotsix]

144. The Aussie cert is shopped.

There are couple of problems with the Australian certificate.

1) It contains an entire section that is missing from the Kenyan one. The section is labeled: Signature and Description of Authorized Person, and Name, Description, and Residence of Informant. Why would a forger leave that out? It wouldn't be because it is blank. If he was copying this form, then it is blank on this form.

2) The australian document uses a vastly different font at the top for the "No.". Why would a forger change that?

3) The Australian certificate is obviously photoshopped. The Date and Place of Birth says "10th April". The '1' there is an actual number 1. Every other number 1 on the page is a lower case 'L'. Typewriters at the time would not have had the number 1, and probably not the number zero either. The practice was to use the lower case 'L' for the number 1 and an upper case o for the number zero. This would explain the 47,O44 as well. There was no zero on the typewriter.

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Adventist_Youth_Honors_Answer_Book/Vocational/Typewriting


So, the Australian certificate IS definitely a forgery. At least it IS photoshopped. Why? Who knows? Was it that way three years ago? Who knows, the link doesn't work now. But it isn't worth anything in this discussion. You can't use a forged document to try to discredit another document.

[grok]

130. Here is another template,

Birther's would be creaming in their pants if this was real...





Looks pretty good and real eh?

[WeDidIt]

133. Freepers who suggest Bomford Doc real and Kenyan phony is fake are being banned

:rofl:

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt any more.

:rofl:

[ohheckyeah]

137. HUH?

The Bomford doc IS real and the Kenyan one IS phony.

I'm confused.

[Drunken Irishman]

139. Exactly.

The Freeptards are banning those who think otherwise.

[ohheckyeah]

140. Oh,yeah. Duh

Sorry. Lack of sleep causes brain fog. :-)