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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 01:43 PM
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The Case of Nazis in the CIA
This explains a lot of why the nation is stuck today with the hand we were "dealt" in 1945...





The Case of Nazis in the CIA

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While the Paperclip scientists were setting up shop in the U.S., Reinhard Gehlen began reestablishing his presence in West Germany. His organization, the Gehlen Org, quickly regained control of the majority of his former agents inside the Iron Curtain, and with the help of many of his former staff, put them back to work. Though he agreed not to hire any former Gestapo, SS or SD members, he sought them out and put them on the payroll--the CIA's payrollCregardless of his promise. And the CIA did not stop him.

Among his recruits were Dr. Franz Six and Emil Augsburg. Six and Augsburg had been members of an SS mobile Death's Head killing squad that hunted down and killed Soviet Jews, intellectuals and partisans wherever they could be found. Six was known as a Streber, or Eager Beaver, for the enthusiastic manner in which he pursued his job. Gehlen also recruited the former Gestapo chiefs of Paris, France, and Kiel, Germany. Then, that not being enough, he hired Willi Krichbaum, the former senior Gestapo leader for southeastern Europe.

Gehlen was pleasantly surprised by what happened next. His new employer, the OSS, not only encouraged but financed an escape mechanism set up by Gehlen for former Nazis. The Gehlen Org established, with OSS help, "rat lines" to provide an underground escape network to be used by former war criminals to escape prosecution by German war crimes tribunals. By way of this organization, over 5,000 Nazis secretly made their way out of Europe to relocate around the globe.

Most went to South and Central America. The countries of choice were Argentina, Chile, Nicaragua and El Salvador. Within a few years after their arrival in these particular countries, the infamous right-wing government "death squads" made their first appearances. Of note in the expatriate community were such characters as Dr. Joseph Mengele, who specialized in crude genetic experiments on Jewish concentration camp inmates, and mass murderer Klaus Barbie, the infamous "Butcher of Lyons."

According to some sources, former OSS officer James Jesus Angleton, who later became CIA Chief of Intelligence, was the man responsible for providing the Nazis with new identities before their departure from the detainment camps. Angleton worked directly for Dulles.

SNIP...

According to Victor Marchetti, former chief analyst on Soviet military capabilities and author of The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence, "The agency loved Gehlen because he fed us what we wanted to hear. We used his stuff constantly, and we fed it to everybody else: the Pentagon; the White House; the newspapers. They loved it." Marchetti further explained, "Gehlen had to make his money by creating a threat that we were afraid of, so we would give him more money to tell us about it. In my opinion, the Gehlen organization provided nothing worthwhile for understanding or estimating Soviet military or political capabilities in Eastern Europe or anywhere else."

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http://www.riflewarrior.com/case_of_nazis_in_the_cia.htm



More on the subject:

Know your BFEE: Spawn of Wall Street and the Third Reich

Know your BFEE: Reinhard Gehlen

Know your BFEE: Hitler’s Bankers Shaped Vietnam War

Know your BFEE: Nazis couldn’t win WWII, so they Backed Bushes.


This is no knock on the good men and women in the CIA.
It is a knock on their leaders, mostly historic.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 01:51 PM
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1. Embarassing that it started under Truman.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 02:00 PM
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2. Dulles lied to Truman...
The guy told the President we wouldn't use NAZI war criminals.

Dulles lied. Wouldn't be the first time or the last.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 02:13 PM
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3. He was a corporatist scumbag
And entirely interested in his own portfolio and in maintaining or gaining power.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 12:17 PM
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17. And THAT is what's wrong with secret government...
...only those on the inside get the information. In our democracy, a free press and freedom of expression are supposed to drive political discussion and the electorate. Secret government agencies are un-American and have led to our current situation, where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and the middle class just disappears into dim memory.

Know your BFEE: America’s Ruling Gangster Class
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 02:34 PM
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7. Good democrats always tend to underestimate the level of evil
embraced by the right - much as I believe Obama is doing today, and Clinton did in his day.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 02:35 PM
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8. Dulles....close ally of Prescott Bush...... and sons
.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 01:59 PM
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19. Here's the answer to Cory Pansion's concluding remark:
Edited on Thu Jul-23-09 02:01 PM by leveymg
"But just then, Allen Dulles worked a miracle. (to be continued ... some day ... when I figure out how he managed the trick)"

Panshion provides an excellent, readable summary of how Harriman Brown Bros., the Bush-Walkers, Standard Oil, the DuPonts and their law firm, Sullivan & Cromwell (the Dulles Bros.) financed and supported the the rise of the Third Reich.

The answer to why no one was ever held accountable comes down to three things: 1) nobody in truly high positions of wealth, trust and authority is ever held accountable in corporate America; 2) Cold War anti-communism excused EVERY crime; and 3) the Nazis shared their loot with ranking American intelligence and military officers at the end of World War Two - everyone had an interest in keeping the rat-lines that the Dulles Bros., the Angletons, Weisner, Barnes, Helmes, et. al. set up secret and in business. The founders of US intelligence came out of the war with dirty hands and millions in numbered Swiss bank accounts. Wiki has a pretty fair entry under "Nazi Gold" - follow the footnotes, especially, the work Loftus has done on the connection between OSS, CIC, Gehlen and the Vatican; also read Chris Simpson's "Blonde Beast."

But, you know all this, my inky friend. ;-)

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 02:21 PM
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4. During Viet Nam
The graduation ceremony for the Phoenix Program cadres was a night torchlight formation.

I wonder where they got that idea?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 03:59 PM
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12. Sounds... oh so... Skull & Bones social.
CIA and Operation PHOENIX in Vietnam

What "worked" in Vietnam got "employed" in Iraq.

The U.S. Has Its Own Dr. Strangelove in Iraq

I'd bet that damn bird has been roosting right here at home.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 07:09 PM
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14. Thousand points of Light?
Who would have guessed....
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 02:21 PM
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5. So is this still true today? Did they ever get rid of them?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 02:25 PM
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6. in a word, no.
They just infiltrated the Republican Party over the last few decades and that's why
it has become what it is today.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 02:43 PM
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9. Don't assume that they remained only in the Republican Party
I think that's probably a wee bit naive.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 03:57 PM
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10. you are so right--it's just the Republicans are so obvious
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 03:58 PM
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11. Indeed!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 04:04 PM
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13. They're not history.
That's why I bring them up.
Like cockaroaches, they hate light.

A Fresh Look - Nazis and the Republican Party by Carla Binion

Jim Marrs, one good reporter, says we're living in NAZI times he terms the Rise of the Fourth Reich.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 08:52 AM
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16. The Nazis didn't lose WWII
They just lost the battle for Europe. The War goes on.
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 10:23 PM
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21. $$$ Money quote.
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-22-09 10:39 PM
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15. Tip of an iceberg.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 01:36 PM
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18. Fascinating posts...

it really makes you wonder if there is something behind the political dynamics of Bay Area politicians.
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-23-09 10:22 PM
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20. Today's NJ news shows
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090723/ts_nm/us_corruption_newjersey;_ylt=AnPwJK9ZiF0xJvIMeMiSxPkDW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTJ1b3VnM291BGFzc2V0A25tLzIwMDkwNzIzL3VzX2NvcnJ1cHRpb25fbmV3amVyc2V5BHBvcwMzMARzZWMDeW5fcGFnaW5hdGVfc3VtbWFyeV9saXN0BHNsawNtYXlvcnNyYWJiaXM-

with a money laundering, organ harvesting, drug trafficking case that was both local and international in scope -- "Crony Fascism" is globalized and franchised in every neighborhood.

The next 10 years are going to be very dark indeed.
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