Fineman to Imus: "It takes a lot of guts to say what you just said." In the spirit of Easter!

[chimpymustgo]

They are still missing the point. I almost posted a thread "Imust just ate a big plate of crow" THEN, they just kept rationalizing, and talking about helping BLACK kids with cancer and sickle cell.

HERE'S THE PROBLEM: You do this over and over, year in and year out. Then you back track. Offer a bullshit apology if DEMANDED. This is not the first time this has happened. But the fire gets a little hotter every time.

Fineman says he got a call before he went on from a listener/reader, asking "Are you going to keep enabling Imus?" Fineman said he "pondered" it. Now Fineman talking about the political environment changing - just looking at the "African American situation". Barack Obama. "Some of the kind of humor you USED to do - you just can't do anymore."

Jeezu, white people!

These people have a long long way to go to getting it.

I hope the women from Rutgers DO NOT MEET WITH IMUS. He - and everyone who appears on that hatefest - need to own up to what they've been doing. It's been racist, sexist and hateful. FOR YEARS. And they finally got CALLED on it.

He actually just LIED and said he didn't say various things through the years - i.e. the Gwen Ifill "cleaning woman" thing. I HEARD that sh*t. Imus tried to weasel out, because BERNIE will say a lot of crap, and he'll just laugh and amen and finish the sentence - thinking that's enough to keep his neck off the hook.

Sorry, I-man. I wanted to believe you have seen the light. I am afraid not. But I'm guessing this: The Reverand Al Sharpton is going to take the I-man to SCHOOL this afternoon. Sharpton will lay it out for him in ways even Imus will have to face and fess up to. THAT will be a can't miss moment in broadcasting.

Ooooh - and now, Imus says he hopes Sharpton will appear on his show tomorrow. MUST SEE TV.

[Connie_Corleone]

1. Those poor white men. Can't make fun of black people anymore.

Those were the good ol' days.
:sarcasm:

[DrDan]

2. I believe IMUS does lead some good causes

but . . . he seems to think this gives him the right to offer these indignities to anyone he chooses . . . . blacks, women, etc.

His staff is every bit as bad.

This show has to change. Dan Abrams needs to step in and slap some sense into this misogynistic, racist group.

(editted to remove insane, too-early-in-the-am, derogatory term)

[chimpymustgo]

4. That is the only "light" I have seen: an admission that THE SHOW HAS TO CHANGE".

BTW - is Bernie ON this morning? I have not heard a peep out of him. And he's the driving force, main instigator, fall guy for the racist, sexist stuff that's been going on for years - with Imus's backing, support, egging on, and laughter.

Where's Clarence Page - his usual "black friend to the rescue". Guess he's been replaced by Harold Ford.

[butterfly77]

14. You took the words out of my mouth...

that ass Bernie needs to go he has made many comments. Where's your so called apology Bernie!

[DrDan]

17. yes - he is on

just saw him

I have sent a minimum of a half-dozen emails to the show over the past year complaining about Bernie . . .

Sent another this morning - reminding Imus that some of his listeners have commented on this behavior in the past . . . and that he has chosen to ignore us . . . and that I believe he owes each of us that have mailed him about these comments an apology as well as those who wield the financial axe . . . .

[chimpymustgo]

20. Good for you. I hope Keith deals with this by compiling a "Greatest HITS of Imus".

And they are hits. Maybe Bernie says the worst stuff, but Imus and Charles guffaw, and tsk tsk him - and it's all in fun, you know. And Russert and Brian Williams, and Joe Lieberman, and John Kerry, and Howard Fineman, and Evan Thomas give him continuous cover. Clarence Page seems to be have been replaced by Harold Ford as "the black validator and chief apologizer."

So I-Man - you say you DIDN'T refer to or compare public tv anchor Gwen Ifill to a cleaning woman? Let's rewind that tape. You're even more of an *sswipe to deny your years of brutal racist and sexist commentary.

[MADem]

66. I'd be surprised if Olbermann dwelled on this matter.

You don't bite the corporate hand that feeds you. You can give it a small nip every now and again, just to demonstrate to your adoring fans that you aren't a prostitute, but one cash cow doesn't crap on another, at least not overmuch. But I could be wrong. We'll see--if he doesn't do it tonight or tomorrow, he ain't doin' it.

[DrDan]

22. don't forget Ray Nagin

Bernie loves to imitate him

in the most demeaning way

[MADem]

63. You're quite right about that observation. He's the instigator, but you have to ask yourself:

Is it all his idea, or 'vas he only followink ORRRRRDERS??'

If there were an issue with his remarks, he'd be told to STFU.

In the Navy, it doesn't matter who's on the bridge when the ship runs aground. If you are the skipper, you could be sound asleep in your rack with your best OOD on the job, but if that individual fucks up, you get relieved for cause. There's no debate, no discussion. If you are in charge, you take responsibility.

The show does have to change. They need to stop with the smartass, racist insults. Then, they can stop with the homophobic crap. They've reduced their female bashing, in that they no longer pick on women in PERSON anymore, but they need to stop with the snarky remarks as well. Stick to making fun of philandering and corrupt politicians and public figures. And grab some of that unused duct tape and use it on old Bernard's mouth. He's just not a nice fellow--a bit too grating for the morning, anyway.

[DrDan]

77. well . . . not sure I agree that they have cut back on the sexist comments

ever hear them discuss Jackie the weather-person . . . I cannot believe she puts up with it and that they get away with it

[EV_Ares]

6. Yeah, especially that bald headed guy on the show, man he is

way out there, a neo-con if you ever saw one.

[DrDan]

19. absolutely . . .

defended junior for years . . . and now is attempting to take the high road . . .

what a slime


Sid was just as bad - I was glad to see that cretin go . . . now only to find he is trying to get back . . . and is appearing as a "guest" every other day

[MADem]

64. "Sid" went to rehab for coke, booze and sex addiction. And did you know, he is a cousin to Norm

(Who's settin' in Paul Wellstone's seat) Coleman?

[DrDan]

68. I did not know that

but it figures

[MADem]

69. The cretinous asshole is actually PROUD of the fact. NT

[DrDan]

71. apparently Imus is considering rehiring Sid

I wonder if the other sports-caster is on his way out

what a mistake this would be - Bernie and Sid are just a recipe for continued disasters like this

[MADem]

72. The Fat Guy's 'Lock of the Week' fellow? I think they should keep him, he's pretty direct.

And hell, Imus just has to make fun of someone, he usually rips that poor bastard to shreds.

My view is, though, that it doesn't matter who he hires--he's the Numbah One Sumbitch in Charge--and he's the one who has both the responsibility AND the authority to enforce a code of appropriate behaviour.

[DrDan]

74. I think Chris is a decent sportscaster

Imus and Bernie just have to have someone to pick on - and he seems to be their number 1 target . . . whether because of his weight . . or his new wife . . or for missing some story

interesting that when they aired the video of KKKarl Rove doing his inane dance, Imus put a quick stop to it . . . not sure why as he usually loves to subject anyone to embarassment

I wonder why he has a soft spot for KKKarl

[Saturday]

3. He said he was sorry.

I forgive him and I hope others will too. I think it will change him and his show. Time will tell.

[Connie_Corleone]

7. His apology means nothing when he's done this many times before.

He's called well-known black people apes, animals, big-haired hos, "cleaning lady", quota hires. (Now, he's denying he's ever said these things.)

And his producer is just as bad, if not worse.

[Saturday]

10. I hear you....

but I think his apology is sincere. I choose to forgive and not hold anger towards him.

[EST]

18. His apology is only as sincere as his paycheck.

This idiot makes MILLIONS! His show is watched and listened to by millions. The only sincere apology I could accept is if he voluntarily and tearfully apologized and resigned in shame.
The rest of it is just show business.

[EV_Ares]

9. I agree with you on Imus. The guy is irritating and stupid sometimes

but he is more honest than those such as Fineman and supposedly top news people who have gone along with this administration on the war. Look how they have been covering Pelosi now instead of telling the truth about her mission.

[renie408]

12. Listen, this is like kids...sometimes 'sorry' isn't good enough and there needs to be a consequence.

Imus needs a time out. Like a time out of the broadcasting business. I have raised two great kids by telling them, "You can choose to do anything you want. I can't stop that. But if you do some things, there will be consequences that 'sorry' won't change. YOU decide how to go forward." This is just as true for famous "grown ups" as it is for kids.

[Swamp Rat]

13. LOL! ... Time out for Imus!

:applause: :rofl:

[wellstone dem]

16. nt

[HeeBGBz]

36. Yeah, til next time

It's time he gets off the air.

[trumad]

45. LOL-

I forgive him tooo... But he still should be fired.

[ellacott]

5. Fineman should be ashamed of himself for say this:

"Now Fineman talking about the political environment changing - just looking at the "African American situation". Barack Obama. "Some of the kind of humor you USED to do - you just can't do anymore."

Shameful

[EV_Ares]

8. Actually Fineman is more repugnant than Imus. Who else was more

guilty of the way he allowed us to get into Iraq. He is a political prostitute. Just whatever keeps him in the limelight. Not much better than Greenspan's wife as far as a news analyst.

[chimpymustgo]

11. Fineman is an obsequious toady. Damn straight the landscape has changed.

It changed a long damn time ago - and this gang is just beginning to glimpse it.

[butterfly77]

15. Bernard is the repugnant one...

I would love to hear what he thinks, even though I don't have to hear it because I already know.

[hatrack]

62. Howard the Duck apparently misses minstrel shows & burnt cork . . .

Fucking dumbass.

[MADem]

21. He's running "scareder than Kramer"--I'm listening, and he's frightened

The entire show is an apologia, with the odd guest calling in to offer support. Tom Oliphant is on now saying he refused to shun the old fool.

Background materials on the entire imbroglio for anyone interested:

http://nba-draft.aolsportsblog.com/2007/04/06/don-imus-calls-rutgers-womens-team-nappy-headed-hos/

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newjersey/ny-bc-nj--imus-protests-soa0409apr09,0,3706947.story?coll=ny-region-apnewjersey

[chimpymustgo]

23. Oh F*ck. Now Oliphant is calling him a civil rights warrior for his "green" work.

Since environmental issues affect so many poor black kids/people. I-man is "ahead of the curve".

Damn. They always find a way. Bringing in John and Teresa Kerry.

Imus is not an environmental hero/slash civil rights warrior. That's the context for calling these women "nappy headed ho's". And ALL THE OTHER CRAP HE'S SAID OVER THE YEARS.

Okay, forgive me picking this silly scab. Seems the mea culpa portion of our program is over.

[ellacott]

25. Not Oliphant

I'm disappointed that he would defend that kind of behavior.

[Joe Fields]

40. Oliphant=George McFly

[MADem]

50. He walked the tightrope on the behavior. He did the "risky humor" riff

Awww, you didn't mean it, Don...your joke ran off the rails...

Funny how that old fool never cuts anyone else any slack when THEY run off the rails...

[KharmaTrain]

24. Why Doesn't MSNBC Suspend Him???

Before I answer my own question, if this had been some Joe Schmoe on a little station who said this crap, I doubt he'd be collecting a check today and the next station he'd be working at would say "Shell" over it.

If MSNBC and WFAN (Infinity Broadcasting) had any real contrition here, they would pull Anus off the air for several days or a week...sending a message to Anus and his hyenas that this crap no longer goes. Of course they won't, since Anus means money to both these operations and, as we've seen over and over again, all that matters is money, not scruples or principals.

This isn't an Anus problem...he's always pulled this shit and knows he can get away with it. He got a shitload of attention and thinks a simple appology will do...until the next time.

[MADem]

26. CBS has a BIG piece of him too (they own his radio distro rights)

The reason they don't suspend him is because he is a cash cow.

No Imus, no cash. Moooooo mooooooo.

Those advertisers might leave and not come back......

[chimpymustgo]

30. Oliphant to Imus: "Solidarity Forever!!" The money-making establishment bond

is thicker than blood. And honor.

Oliphant even sticking up for McCain.

This has been eye-opening. Sickening, but eye-opening.

[KharmaTrain]

31. Infinity Isn't CBS Anymore

While both are part of Viacom, the radio and television divisions were separated when Mel Karmazin was canned. It's interesting to see the corporate buck passing. While these insults aired on MSNBC, they claim ignorance since the "show was produced by WFAN"...while WFAN took the easy way out, claiming they put a disclaimer on the show that says what Anus says is not the opinion of management. Sorry, that shit don't wash here...as I've had too many years inside the radio/TV world to know how things really work.

Advertisers aren't the key here. Anus isn't a spokesperson for any major recognized product...it's the responsibility of the broadcast entitities to take action. It's amazing how Stern was yanked off the air and suspended for comments made on his show he didn't even make, but Anus gets out and bleets something that is not only racist but sexist and obscene in one breath and everyone just "shrugs".

I've said this earlier...I believe this outburst was staged for publicity. It's a two-fer. First is all the controversy we're seeing on here and on non-sports sites...predominately outrage. On the other side is the sports talk work...dozens of radio stations across the country, newspaper columnists and more who have been going nuts on this story, too...it all adds up to publicity for Anus, WFAN and MSNBC. Advertisers only look at the end result...the ratings surge.

Cheers...

[MADem]

44. You are mistaken. CBS has the radio rights.

See here: http://imusblog.com/cbs-radio-imus-show-orders-audio-clips-removed/

And here: http://www.forward.com/articles/imus-cbs-bosses-money-grubbing-jews/

And here: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/07/arts/television/07imus.html?ex=1333598400&en=d4110315823f0019&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

CBS Radio, which syndicates the radio show, was sorry as well: “We are disappointed by Imus’s actions earlier this week which we find completely inappropriate,” the company said in a statement. “We fully agree that a sincere apology was called for and will continue to monitor the program’s content going forward.”

[KharmaTrain]

51. "Syndicator"

That's another leech in this chain. WFAN is not CBS...it's Infinity that divorced itself from the television network...but still is under the Viacom umbrella. CBS Radio is the syndicator...another layer...the people who deliver Anus' show to his affiliates and handle some of the advertising. This is like how Coulter is syndicated, yet Universal Press owns no papers or controls the content...they are middlemen. They can monitor all they want...it means zero as all they care about are that stations continue to carry the show and they can make their money from the ratings.

Also many of the Anus affiliates are owned by Entercom and Clear Channel...those are the ones who pay for the exclusive to carry Anus in most major markets and also should be held accountable.

Here's a list of those stations:

http://www.msnbc.com/modules/interactive.aspx?id=imus_stations&navid=3096433&fmt=full

If these stations either suspend or cancel the show, this would really rock Anus' world.

Cheers...

[MADem]

55. And with all of those players in the mix, advertising does become an issue.

It's ADVERTISING costs that go up and down, depending on those ratings. That's what brings in the dough.

Peerless Boilers and NETJETS are the main ones that Anus in the Morning touts himself, along with Terry Bradshaw's idiotic group, Daisani water (a division of Coca Cola) and a few others that come and go, often seasonally. But those local affilates need to eat, and so do the advertisers. They aren't gonna stick with poison.

FWIW, CBS radio DOES own WFAN. Here's the relationships, in context: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/09/business/media/09carr.html?_r=1&ref=business&oref=slogin

That’s not to say that everyone at MSNBC, which simulcasts the show, and its owner NBC (a unit of the General Electric Company), along with CBS Radio, which owns WFAN and syndicates the show, wasn’t terribly, terribly sorry. Before apologizing, network executives at MSNBC pointed out that, “ ‘Imus in the Morning’ is not a production of the cable network and is produced by WFAN Radio,” which is a little like saying that they did not manufacture a bomb, they only delivered it.

This isn’t the first time that Mr. Imus has trolled these waters: he once called Gwen Ifill, then working at The New York Times, “a cleaning lady” and described one of the paper’s sports columnists, William C. Rhoden, as a “quota hire.” Both of those journalists are black, but Mr. Imus’s defenders like to point out that he is an equal-opportunity misanthrope whose show displays 360-degree offensiveness toward all sorts of ethnicities, sexual orientations and religious affiliations.

Although the Web has been alive with calls for sanctions against Mr. Imus — the clip is available for all to see on YouTube — mainstream media have remained relatively silent. He is, after all, popular, good at his job and, perhaps more important, he generously provides oxygen — and an audience — to the kind of journalistic and political elites who would be expected to demand his head on a pike.

He is, to borrow one of the show’s metaphors, a lawn jockey to the establishment. Few politicians, big or small, pass up a chance to bump knees with Mr. Imus, in part because his show is one of the few places where they can talk seriously and at length about public issues. Senator John Kerry has stopped by. Senator John McCain is on frequently. And Senators Joseph I. Lieberman and Joseph R. Biden are part of a legion eager to sit in the guest chair. ... Part of the reason that his corporate owners are eager to apologize, eager for the latest gaffe to blow over, is so that they can get back to counting the lucre he generates. Mr. Imus has been a boon for MSNBC because he provides a cheap and effective way for the third-ranked cable news network to compete in the morning (it doesn’t cost a lot to film a radio show). CNN recently switched morning anchors in part because of the ratings strength that Mr. Imus was generating.

On the radio, Mr. Imus may have lost some of the heat that he used to generate — Talkers magazine, a trade publication, ranked him 14th among United States radio hosts — but he is still the go-to guy for selling books, in part because when he becomes interested in a book, he will flog it for days and sometimes weeks. ...

[warrior1]

27. He's not only a racist

he is a sexist.

Imagine, if you will, he would have said this about a all male mostly black team. He would, IMO, would have packed his shit on Friday, at that would have been the last of him. But, to say it about a young black women, he gets a pass. Every fucking time. I'm sick of this, he needs to go.

[spooky3]

65. A lot of people can't even see the sexism in his & Bernie's remarks

not just this time but many times in the past.

Why isn't the MSM asking whether he is going to meet with the leaders of NOW or other women's orgs.?

[Bucky]

28. In one sense, Fineman is right. It does take lot of audacity for Imus to say "I'm not a racist"

It's Imus vs reality.

[DainBramaged]

29. I'm only going to respond once about Imus

and not to replies to my comment either.

I bought his albums in the 70's, and I've listened to him since the NBC days. Most of the people on DU have never ONCE listened to Imus on the radio or watched him on MSNBC, but find it necessary to comment on his stupid remarks and call for him to be fired.

You can say all you want about how bad and evil he is, but you have no clue as to what he has done for our veterans (Center for the Intrepid), children with cancer (The Imus Ranch), and families who have suffered with the devastation of SIDS (annual telethon). There is a wing of the Hackensack medical Center named for him, and the pediatric wing of the hospital is named after his wife (The Deirdre Imus Environmental Center for Pediatric Oncology). He has raised over one hundred million dollars for cancer research and for the hospital for our wounded veterans (Center for the Intrepid).

Al Sharpton pulled a scam in the Eighties with Tawana Brawley (Google her name) and he NEVER apologized.

Reich wingers have said MUCH worse, and their jobs have NEVER been threatened (Glen Beck comes to mind) and the Reverand Sharpton is no pillar of society.

Imus made a very stupid and racially insensitive remark, but since we haven't impeached Bush for stupidity, neither should Imus be fired for his.

I'm done.

[Connie_Corleone]

32. And John Wayne Gacy used to entertain sick children and was a Democrat.

I don't give a damn what Imus has done. I don't give a damn about Al Sharpton either. I've heard Imus on his show making racist and sexist remarks before. That doesn't make it right. Enough is enough.

He needs to be fired. His racist producer needs to go too.

[chimpymustgo]

33. You're done? Good. Appreciate your perspective, but disagree strongly, having listened

to Imus for years.

Yes, he does some good things. Why not - he's a millionaire many times over!

But he's also made slews of racist, sexist comments over the years. And if anyone dared criticize him - he told them to just get over it. He can say whatever he wants to say - BECAUSE HE'S NOT A RACIST. Get it?

He's finally getting called on it. So far, making a limited hang-out apology. Not enough IMHO.

[notundecided]

42. Imus

One word "sickle- cell". Imus is on it are you.

[ellacott]

34. The mafia also gave millions of dollars to the Catholic Church

Many of the crooked corporate exectutives establish major endowments.

It's wonderful that Imus is a philanthropist. I guess you are saying that he gets a free pass with anything else he does.

How are you so sure that Sharpton never apologized and what does that have to do with what Imus said?

If we made judgements whether someone is a "pillar of society" a large majority of people would be rendered silent.

If Imus is such a "pillar of society" he should realize that there are consequences to his actions.

I know you said you won't respond, hopefully you'll just read.

I'm not done.

[renie408]

35. You are wrong.

I have tried to listen to Imus many times.

I don't enjoy his show. I never have. I would hear people singing his praises and try to listen, thinking I must have just checked in on an off day. And I have just never liked his delivery.

Look, I have had people with whom I struck up friendships who turned out to be homophobes or racist or whatever. And while we are still 'friendly', we aren't really FRIENDS any more. I ended up distancing myself because I couldn't ignore those positions. This is how I feel about Imus. And if enough people choose to distance themselves from him because of his racist comments, then his show will not be broadcast in the same manner in which it is currently.

[monmouth]

37. I also get a sense of over-piling on re this. Let it go, he's doing what

he can. It was bad, we're all sorry, but enough already. Can I count on not being called a honkey anymore??? I doubt it.

[Connie_Corleone]

39. The next time George Jefferson calls you a honkey, let us know.

I'm black and I haven't heard anyone use that term since The Jeffersons.

[ellacott]

41. honkey/nappy headed ho

They both are wrong but the latter is much more insulting. As has been said, I doubt if anyone has called you that lately. He's not doing what he can. He can still do more. He has a history of saying racist, misogynistic comments and he finally when too far.

I imagine it doesn't strike a nerve with you because he wasn't talking about your race or sex.

It's funny how there is so much outrage about what Rush or Fox says. If Imus' comments were against homosexuals there would be outrage. In this situation we need to let it go. He's referred to Gwen Ifil as a cleaning woman and we let it go. He's made other racist remarks and we've let them go. It's about time we stop and say that this is not acceptable.

[msongs]

43. thanks for starting a boycott of gang hop rap music, you ought not let that go either :-)

big double standard when people who make some rap music can peddle foul mouth trash to children for PROFIT and that is considered ok.


Msongs
www.msongs.com

[ellacott]

47. My goodness, you sure do assume a lot

As a matter of fact I have long participated in the boycott of gangSTER rap. There is no need to start a boycott because there are already many in existence. The media doesn't tell you this. I have also worked in support of a group a college students who successfully made a college cancel an appearance of the popular rap artist. Not only that, I have been apart of lectures by the late C. Dolores Tucker(please do a google).

I agree it is trash and I personally am not involved in any double standard.

Stop assuming what you don't know.

[trumad]

46. What a stupid fucking post

[MADem]

49. The old children's adage applies: Two wrongs don't make a right.

Hitler loved dogs, too.

I am not comparing Imus to Hitler, but he's been out-of-line for a LONG time. Since he was beyond rude at the White House Correspondent's Dinner. Since he called his Gwen Ifill the cleaning lady (that he denies, but I remember it). Since he called the CBS executives "A bunch of money-grubbing Jews." Since forever, as he harassed women incessantly until Contessa Brewer threw down and refused to "put up with this crap." Contessa stopped that shit, and now the Black leadership is shutting him down.

And it isn't SHARPTON that is leading this charge; he's just serving as a platform for Imus to speak to the Black community--if anything, Sharpton, a fellow New Yorker, is HELPING Imus explain himself, so if you like Imus, you should be lovin' on Al.

Read the NEWSDAY report--this would have been over yesterday, were it not for an Easter sermon at a major Black church and some high placed complaints to CBS radio and MSNBC.

[KoKo]

59. He hob nobs with MS Corporate Media on his show, he uses "hate speech"

and just because he has a Ranch that supposedly helps sick kids and his wife hobnobs with Beltway Society in charity causes he gets to spew his hateful venom on MSNBC in the morning where kids could be watching. If someone wants to listen to him on the radio spewing his crap then fine. But, some of us are sick of hate talk on our Tee Vee when we pay for it.

Saying "turn it off" isn't an answer because it's EVERYWHERE and those wanting to watch news stations shouldn't be subjected to crap you could hear from every two bit hate monger on the free radio...including that ASS Limpballs who has turned millions into haters with his venom.

Imus turned into a shill years ago and just because he gives "celebrities" including the Beltway Pundits and Politicians a chance to donate to his ranch (for big tax breaks) and gives them "book selling opportunities" on his show ....he still spreads hate speech and trivializes our political system.

It's time for MSNBC to drop him. He gone too far for too long and his diatribes against "stupid women" and now his vile racist comments about "nappy, ho's" has shown him for the obnoxious racist he really is under the surface.

[The Count]

60. Sharpton needs to account for his own s* - doesn't make Imus any less responsible

Finger pointing in these very personal responsibility cases is so kindergarten!
I am not going to even touch the buying his way into heaven part as it's so ridiculous... But your post reminds me of this saying:


Most men worry about their own bellies, and other people's souls, when we all ought to be worried abut our own souls, and other people's bellies

Rabbi Israel Salanter 1810-1883

[MADem]

73. The poster doesn't get that Sharpton is actually helping Imus out

The same way Tavis Smiley helped Trent Lott out, by giving him a platform from which to atone, and a master of ceremonies with a bit of "draw" to guide the discussion.

The Black community forgave Trent, because they know just what he is. The one thing Trent never did was discriminate on the TYPES of pork-laden jobs he brought to his state. His rising tide lifted boats of all races, and that's why he was easy to forgive. The devil you know, after all...

Of course, the real reason Trent got "canned" over that Strom business was because BushCo wanted the difficult Senator Lott gone, and the compliant Senator Frist to take over.

Now, I don't know much about Imus's relationship with the community--it could be deep, it could just be broad and skimming. I don't know. All I can say is, his words on that show of his don't seem to indicate a respectful relationship, despite his friendships with a few rather well-known Black celebrities.

[The Count]

75. Blacks forgave Trent? Huh? When did THAT happen?

me thinks it was GOP that reinstalled him in the safe cloak of silence from the MSM that was ragging on "Pelosi's troubles" at the time....
I missed the "forgiveness" part as well as the 'rising of all boats...Are you sure we're both talking about Trent Lott now?:wow:

[frogcycle]

38. cross-post

my comments in another thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=600454&mesg_id=607107

[Imagevision]

48. "It takes a lot of guts" -> that's the mentality on the Imus show...

[The Count]

76. Yup. Wittle underdog Imus daring to defy the Big Scary Black Power...

Speaking truth to power in other words...:sarcasm:

[earthlover]

52. what Imus said was racist and sexist

Just calling a woman a "ho" is sexist in the extreeme.

I suggest that everyone stop using the word "ho" referring to women.

It is wrong for Imus. It is wrong for everyone.

Disgusting way to talk about women.

[ellacott]

53. I agree

There is no place for that word.

[Supersedeas]

54. Fineman is the most pathetic disgusting excuse for journalism

[Catherine Vincent]

56. I didn't realize Sharpton had a show.

Is this on cable and/or only in New York?

[femmedem]

58. I think you'll be able to watch it here:

http://www.sharptontalk.net/

Imus said it would be on at 1:00 this afternoon.

[Catherine Vincent]

67. Thanks!

Although, I don't plan to watch but thanks anyway. :hi:

[grace0418]

57. In this day and age, why do these idiots try to say they "never said xyz..."?

Are they not aware that someone, somewhere has recorded what they've said in some form or another and probably posted it on the internet?

[The Count]

61. And that's why, RW think tanks came up with "political correctness" pejorative

To make their hateful actions into "courageous" ones....
It's why I hit the ceiling when any decent person buys into the "political correctness" fallacy...

yeah, Fineman, I feel your pain...Like Strom Thurman/Trent Lott were nostalgic for: you can't even lynch them anymore...Oh, the humanity!:nopity:

[AlCzervik]

70. Well geez it's not like Imus called them "Nappy headed ho's" oh wait, nevermind.