Charlie Rose, Zbigniew Brzezinski on. PBS now in Houston. nt

[babylonsister]

[tj2001]

1. Brzezinski was quite good

[Oregone]

2. He was an asshole

Probably still is

[babylonsister]

4. BUSTED. Are you listening, because he hasn't finished yet. Get it. You're not. nt

[Oregone]

5. No, I meant, he was an asshole, in terms of his contribution to world history

I wouldn't want to listen to that fuck bag--he has already said too much

"Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter. We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war."

"What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?"

He is one of the architects of the great historical cataclysm that brought about a theocratically repressed nation, terrorist organizations, a whole lot of dead Americans, and two wars. Fuck him.

[babylonsister]

6. OK. I don't agree, but thanks for your response.

Whoa. Please add to your list of people who killed our country. I'm all ears.

And who might right this fuckbag of a mess?

[BolivarianHero]

12. What a fucking moron...

With the exception of Barbados, all of the countries with the lowest illiteracy were former members of the Soviet Union or the Warsaw Pact.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/edu_ill_rat_by_sex_age_15_wom-rates-sex-aged-15-women

That asshole didn't liberate anyone; he simply destroyed the one system and society that gave a damn about the achievements of women and supported a bunch of misogynist Islamist wackos who were in need either of reeducation or a rain of Soviet bullets.

[babylonsister]

3. He's great. The big picture. nt

[Democracyinkind]

7. For Fucks sake: He is a criminal that belongs to jail.

What's with all the pro empire bullshit? Has anyone of you guys read his books? I'm with Oregone, the guys a shitface and in my opinion he belongs behind bars for his 79-scheme.

But of course, I am not watching right no (can't) so this is just a personal remark founded on my previous experience. What is he talking about then? Does he have another great scheme to fuck up some part of the world for good? I'll never respect someone for whom people are just figurines on a chessboard.

The guy's got blood on his hand big time.

[KG]

10. z-big is just another orchestrator of death and destruction.

guess he get a pass around here for working for dem admins.

[lostnfound]

11. Plus, he's Mika's father.

No, I'm joking. "Orchestrator of death and destruction" sounds like an accurate description. That interview in the foreign paper where he admitted 'giving the Soviets their Vietnam" in Afghanistan waa disgusting. And the part where he said that the fall of the Soviet empire would have a more lasting impact than "a few crazy stirred up Muslims" (al Qaeda) was an interesting blindspot.

[Oregone]

13. I just don't know why everyone dug him out of his grave to fawn over him recently

Im befuddled over how awestruck some people are over him. Short memories I guess.

[Democracyinkind]

14. Or no fucking clue about US foreign policy and history. I think that's the main problem.

[Democracyinkind]

8. dupe.

[Democracyinkind]

9. Good? As in: good on the show or good in history?

Tell me you mean the show....?`What is he talking about?