Buchanan Tells A Whopper

[lame54]

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/buchanan-climate-bill-will-lead-transfer-wealth

From C&L:

Pat Buchanan on MSNBC during a break in their wall to wall Michael Jackson coverage fear mongering over the energy bill that just passed the House.

Witt: Why doesn't anyone want to call it a climate bill?

Buchanan: Well, because the science is suggesting that maybe all of this isn't really happening or it's not really dangerous or it's not really man made. Barack Obama, the President is right when he said we shouldn't be afraid of the future. That is how this bill got passed through fear. We're all going to change. The climate's going to change. The oceans are going to rise. Our cities are going to be under water.

But more and more scientists are coming forward to say this is a hoax and a scam which is designed to transfer wealth and power from the private sector to the government sector and from the government of the United States to a world government. Which is what we're going to get in Copenhagen when we get this Kyoto two agreement.

Witt: Okay, here come the emails.

Alex, no one believes you didn't fully expect Buchanan to say something outrageous before you and your producers allowed him on the air. Don't go whining after it's too late about getting nasty emails for doing it. Buchanan fails to specify, and Witt fails to ask him just who these scientists are.

[pinto]

1. Oy. The ultimate strawman argument. "World Government!"

:scared:

[patrice]

2. At minimum, Witt should have replied: "Tell us more about the scientists." MSM thinks you are STUPID

Buchanan should have been made to identify the science he is referring to, including their financiers, AND even to have established what the rate of increase in their findings is that he is referring to in "...more and more..."

[Buzz Clik]

3. Buchanan never stops. No scientist would proclaim it a "hoax and a scam."

We have asshole pundits for that.

[Botany]

4. Bald FACED LIAR

"But more and more scientists are coming forward to say this is a hoax and a scam ..... "


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byrd_Polar_Research_Center
Like the radical scientists @ OSU's Institute of Polar Studies?

Greenland
BPRC scientists study Greenland ice sheet and Antarctic ice sheet response to climate change.
Greenland ice cores date to 100,000 years. They are used to study historical temperature, chemical makeup, snowfall, dust, vegetation, volcanic activity, and anthropogenic emissions.
The surface mass balance (precipitation minus evaporation minus blowing snow minus sublimation minus runoff) in Greenland is decreasing each year. Approximately 80 cubic kilometers of surface mass has been lost each year since 1991. Large melt lakes are appearing at the edges of the Greenland ice sheet on the western side. These melt lakes flow under the glacier, lubricate it, and speed up its movement.


Antarctica
The Vostok ice core (see Vostok, Antarctica), is 420,000 years old. Studies of this core show cyclical changes in temperature and atmospheric CO2 in ppm (parts-per-million). Average annual temperatures have risen steadily since 1900, with fluctuating temperatures between 1940 and 1980. Average temperature and CO2 have risen and fallen in tandem, but opinions still vary on whether the temperature rise is caused by the increased CO2, or vice versa.
The Transantarctic Mountains bisect the continental ice sheets, with different ice flow dynamics on either side. RadarSat (radar images collected by orbiting satellites) is being used to map the ice sheets. Ice sheet flow into the ocean is increasing and in western Antarctica, the ice stream is draining into the Ross Ice Shelf with marked acceleration.
In March 2000, the largest observed iceberg in history broke away from the Ross Ice Shelf.

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Global Effects
Ice sheet changes affect sea level. In the last 2 decades, ice caps and glaciers have been disappearing at a rapid rate. In 1978, John Mercer predicted that the collapse of the ice sheet would be a precursor signal of global warming.
Snow and ice melt contribute 50% of the sea level rise (20% from Greenland, 10% from Antarctica, and 20% from elsewhere). The remaining 50% is caused by thermal expansion of the ocean. As average temperatures rise, the water molecules move further apart.
The current average atmospheric CO2 level is 370 ppm. The highest historical level in the Vostok ice core is 275 ppm.

Conclusion
There is general consensus from the scientific community that global warming is real and is currently occurring, except for a small but vocal minority.
The Conference Board, a corporate think tank, recently made the following observations:
The greenhouse effect is “real and intensifying”,
human activity is contributing to this, and
corporate boards should be evaluating the risks of continuing business as usual.

[lame54]

5. thanks for posting that

[Botany]

6. all they have left is "well we don't really know" and this shoots that and ...

... Well it is warming but since we have no data before the ice ages then we can't be sure
of this is a natural event or not. The coal, oil, natural gas, electric companies are dumping
billions still into disinformation campaigns as per the threat of climate change.