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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:04 AM
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Scott Horton: Government lawyers are responsible for the foreseeable consequences of their conduct.
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2009/06/hbc-90005198

June 15, 2:37 PM, 2009 · No Comment ·

John Yoo’s Reckoning With Justice Draws Closer
By Scott Horton

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Representing Jose Padilla and his mother, the Yale students brought a civil action for damages that Padilla suffered. Padilla was, they argued, tortured and mistreated as a result of legal memoranda that John Yoo wrote when he served as an official in the Bush Justice Department. Arguing for Yoo, the Obama Justice Department sought dismissal of the lawsuit, arguing the same legal propositions advanced by the Bush Administration. Their view is that officials of the Justice Department have immunity for official acts. That notion is widely accepted, but the issue here is whether the same notion of immunity applies when a government official engages in lawless and indeed criminal conduct of a particularly outrageous form that violates the rights of a citizen. Since the early days of the Republic, it was recognized that immunity did not go that far. In the view of the Bush team, however, now embraced by their successors, Justice Department officials have immunity that shields them against civil claims that arise from their criminal conduct, such as torture, kidnapping, renditions to torture, and warrantless surveillance. This might better be called the doctrine of official irresponsibility: it argues that government officials are entitled to disobey their oath to uphold the laws and Constitution, and in fact are entitled to break the criminal law with total impunity. The doctrine of official irresponsibility is not law, but rather just the opposite: it is an attempt to place personal prerogative above the law.

In seeking dismissal, Yoo argued that the case asked the courts to look at the president’s exercise of his war-making powers, and that the courts should butt out. But his principal argument was utterly predictable: state secrets. “Yoo contends that the Court should abstain from reviewing the alleged constitutional violations presented in this matter because the claims necessarily would uncover government secrets, thereby threatening national security.” The “secrets” here, of course, are of two sorts: first, the torture techniques used to turn Padilla into the human equivalent of an eggplant and second, the legal voodoo employed by Yoo in his efforts to justify Padilla’s torture and thus promise the torturers legal protection from criminal prosecution. But neither of these “secrets” are actually secret. Padilla was subjected to 21 months of solitary confinement and sensory deprivation that left him in a state of “post-traumatic stress disorder, complicated by the neuropsychiatric effects of prolonged isolation.” Detailed descriptions of the regime applied are actually in the public record. Similarly, over Yoo’s vehement objections, his memoranda were already released—and indeed, we learn they had even been repudiated by Yoo’s Bush Administration colleagues, in further secret memoranda filed just as they were packing to leave.

So just what sort of “government secrets threatening to national security” are implicated in the Yoo suit? Why, that would be the sort of “secrets” that reflect criminal conduct on the part of those involved in them and which would prove embarrassing and damaging to the reputation of their authors. In other words, they are not “secrets” at all, and the government’s claim has certainly been put forward – as usual – in bad faith.

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Like any other government official, government lawyers are responsible for the foreseeable consequences of their conduct…. Here, Padilla alleges that in Yoo’s highly-influential position, he participated directly in developing policy on the war on terror. The complaint specifies that in Yoo’s role as an advisor in the President’s War Council, he drafted legal opinions which lay out the legal groundwork for assessing the designation of individual enemy combatants and legitimized the unconstitutional treatment of those individuals once detained… Yoo also advised executive officials that military detention of an American citizen seized on American soil was lawful because, he claimed, the Fourth Amendment had no application to domestic military operations in this context.

The court relied on a number of precedents in which government lawyers were held accountable for rendering bad legal advice. However, it misses the substantial precedent relating specifically to the potential criminal liability of government attorneys for misstating the law relating to armed conflict, which was confirmed in United States v. Altstoetter. Still, the key principle is the one the judge flagged: “Government lawyers are responsible for the foreseeable consequences of their conduct."

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:08 AM
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1. K&R
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:23 AM
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2. I found one little ray of good DoJ related news today.
Jeff Taylor, the US Attorney for DC, a scumbag hired by Gonzalez, is resigning. He was the one that put on that farce of a case against Ivins in the media. He also handled the Chandra Levy case and the Blackwater shooting case. He's got a job at Ernst & Young heading up their fraud unit -- another irony meter busted. But at least he can't do any more damage on the government payroll.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 07:14 AM
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4. but when is Alice Martin & Leura Canary going to leave? What hasn't Holder acted on these
2 highly corrupt individuals? It makes no sense to me unless they don't want Siegelman to talk about election fraud.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 07:20 AM
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5. I don't understand it either. n/t
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 05:33 AM
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3. "...officials of the Justice Department have immunity for official acts."
Is that a law that Congress passed, or just plain illegal?

Guess we'll find out.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-16-09 08:41 AM
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6. K&R. .... "doctrine of official irresponsibility" = definition of the Bush Doctrine
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