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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 08:02 PM
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Question: Can a President (and a Vice_President) be removed from office....
...if it is deemed that are no longer fit to command or assume command? Is there any such statute that can be invoked if it becomes psychologically obvious that they are psychotic and deranged? A further question: can the Joint Chiefs take unilateral and autonomous action to change the "football" codes thus preventing either man from launching our nuclear missiles?
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 08:03 PM
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1. I believe the 23rd Amendment addresses your first question.
As to the nuke codes, I have no idea.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 08:06 PM
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5. I should have included the word "immediately"....
...without the process of impeachment.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 08:12 PM
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10. Dammit, I got the wrong Amendment number...see post # 8
But it's damnably difficult in any case. Unfortunately.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 08:04 PM
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2. Yes, that's why we need to BEGIN Impeachment proceedings ...
Edited on Wed Apr-04-07 08:07 PM by ShortnFiery
just the PROCESS of uncovering their inept, craven, corrupt and criminal conduct will turn "The American Populace" against them.

IMO, we will have the votes if all their crimes are aired in public. :thumbsup:

ON EDIT: These two men are "evil" not crazy. Bush is incompetent but we knew that from the onset. :(
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 08:04 PM
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3. I am waiting for an answer to this one
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 08:05 PM
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4. Don't worry, we all know that President Cheney calls all the shots.
:yoiks:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 08:06 PM
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6. Doesn't the Constitution provide a line of succession, in the event a president is...
...deemed incapable of serving? After Cheney, I think it goes to Nancy Pelosi, which works just fine, for me. :D
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 08:07 PM
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7. I asked this a while back
I was told (from memory) that if either teh Pres or VP is mentally unfit, they can be removed but that would require the other to certify it. In other words, Bush would have to certify Cheney was unfit or vice versa. I don't think there's any provision for both of them going tonto.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 08:07 PM
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8. Answer to your first
question

TWENTY–FIFTH AMENDMENT
PRESIDENTIAL VACANCY, DISABILITY, AND INABILITY
Section 1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Section 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless theVice President and a majority of either the principle officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty–eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress within twenty–one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session within twenty–one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two–thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

(Note to mods, Ammendments are not covered by copyright law)

As to your second question you are talking of a coup...a military coup´. The US military is subservient to civilian authorities, good or bad
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 08:11 PM
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9. Regarding the second question....
...the oath of office states "protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic." The second part of the oath states "discharge the duties of the officers of the United States." I think there is no conflict if the Constitution is in peril.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 08:17 PM
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11. Yes but the 25th is difficult to enact.
"Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President."

How are you going to convince Cheney to sign off on that (except at gunpoint?)

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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 08:26 PM
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12. You know....
His ticker isn't working that well.
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