Has there ever been a lawsuit to prove that the bible is really the word of god?

[Bill219]

This whole marriage issue stems from the fact that people are taking parts of the bible, a book that has been translated and rewritten many times over the years, and using it to present their side as to why marriage should be between a man and a woman. They are forcing their religious beliefs upon an large group of people and there is no actual proof as to the authenticity of the bible being the word of god.

Also, as I mentioned in another thread, doesn't basing the whole argument on religious dogma (because it says in the bible), kinda go against what this whole country was founded on, freedom of religion.

What would happen if a gay atheist couple wanted to get married, why should they have a religious groups beliefs forced upon them. If they don't believe in the bible or a mythical sky being that controls everything in the universe, why are they forced to follow a stupid rule based upon another religion's book.

Maybe it is time to attack the root of this entire mess.

[Taverner]

1. HA HA!!!

I love it!

[ColbertWatcher]

2. Interesting question. k+r.

But, I think it would apply to just about anyone who isn't Christian, not just atheist.

Say a Wiccan, for instance.

[Bill219]

6. exactly...

the whole man+woman= marriage argument is based upon some writings in one religions instruction manual.

I was just using the atheists as an example

[JonLP24]

3. No but appearently we had a lawsuit prove that Santa Clause existed

Maybe we need to check with the post office to see if there are any letters to god.

(yes, I know the movie was fiction, I'm being silly)

[flvegan]

4. "I have a subpoena for a Mr. Jesus Christ, and His dad Jehovah."

[ananda]

5. The bible is just another fiction book.

nt

[Bill219]

12. One of my favorite classic Star Trek episodes

Is the one where they go to the gangster planet.

Their whole culture and beliefs were based upon a book about the gangs of Chicago that was left behind by another starship crew.

That book became their bible.


I do not understand why we as a people put some much energy, belief and faith into something that has never been proven.

Religion has been a plague upon this world and has done far more harm than good.

[damntexdem]

26. That's for you to believe; and the laws says you have a right to that belief.

That belief should not be the subject of a lawsuit -- only the right to that belief if the right is being limited by government.

[annabanana]

7. Television of that trial, please. .

[kestrel91316]

8. We need a ballot initiative to change the CA constitution to state,

unequivocally, that the entire bible in all its permutations is fantasy, and not to be used as the basis for any laws.

I'll be the first to vote for it. People need to leave their bibles at church and in their homes. They have no place in the courts or legislature or executive branch.

[Bill219]

17. I would be the second vote on that

If I lived in CA

[pnwmom]

31. The CA Constitution can't subvert the U.S. Constitution, and the U.S. Constitution

would prohibit such a finding on the part of the government.

[underpants]

9. Yes. There was, I believe, a documentary on it it back in the 70's

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076489/

[Bill219]

27. wow..

I haven't seen that movie in many years

[rurallib]

10. Couple years ago Iread about a case in Italy that was in court at the time

Can't remember the exact details, but I believe a man was suing the Catholic Church for fraud for receiving money based on a myth and no proof of an afterlife. Other than that I can not remember much. It was on its way to the Italian Supreme Court. Must've lost, cause I am sure we'd have heard.
Well, looky here Google is my friend:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2006-01-30-italy-atheist_x.htm

[panzerfaust]

14. Ah, but what happened?

[Bill219]

23. Thank you for posting that link

[Bill219]

24. Here is a link to his website

http://www.luigicascioli.eu/traduzioni/en_1.htm

[old mark]

11. None to my knowledge - the Scopes trial would be close, I guess-

but I'd LOVE to see the trial if there ever was one. Be a laugh a minute, and outrage a whole lot of people I hate. Win-win.

You could NEVER prove beyond a doubt in court the existence of god.

mark

[county worker]

13. Segregation was based on the bible as was creationism.

Both went to court and the court ruled against the bible.

[panzerfaust]

16. and Slavery too

The Southern Ministers were quite clear that blacks were rightfully enslaved.

Have never been able to understand the numbers of the faithful amongst American blacks. My only thought is that after abolition, it was the black churches that allowed people to come together to resist the continuing persecution from the white majority; that, and that Christianity was basically a religion pitched to the unempowered, downtrodden, and enslaved in the ancient world - one of the main points being that there was a better world a'coming, so do not be discontent in this one. After the fusion of the Church and the State around the time of Charlemagne, the Church continued to preach poverty and submission to the masses whilst - well, history shows us what the Princes of the Church were like.

[rucky]

15. Wasn't that the plot of "Oh, God! - Book II"?

[mitchum]

18. Quit picking on the all powerful god, you bullies!

[BuyingThyme]

19. Dick Cheney is God.

[Holly_Hobby]

20. I would like to see a lawsuit regarding "Act of God",

that's found in insurance policies. I want to see an insurance company prove that God did it.

(Back on topic, I hope the gay marriage issue will be put back on the ballot soon.)

[Sezu]

21. Good luck deposing God. n/t

[shadowknows69]

22. A kick and a blasphemous recommend.

[damntexdem]

25. That is something that should NEVER be the subject of a lawsuit, nor of legislation.

Separation of church and state means that the government should neither endorse nor undermine any purely-religious claims. Now claims about the natural world constitute a different matter: whether about the evidence for evolution, deep geological time, the Big Bang, or a genetic or intrauterine basis for sexual orientation. The issue is that the bible should have no relevance to the question of who can engage in a civil marriage.

[rustydog]

28. It doesn't matter States sanction and recognize marriages

it doesn't matter if your clergy, minister, rabbi, whatever isn't vested by the state, the marriage is not legal.

you can get married in any church in America. without the state license, you are not legally married. Church is secondary to this. it may be Primary to the weddingparty, but not necessary to be legally married.

[anonymous171]

32. That's the problem. People keep on focusing on gay marriage as a moral/religious issue

when in fact it is actually a legal issue.

[rustydog]

33. Exactly. this isn't gay marriage, it is marriage period.

[pnwmom]

29. The Constitution of the U.S. would prohibit such a ruling.

Separation of Church and State, remember?

[anonymous171]

30. Yes, let's crash the progressive movement into the brick wall that is religion.

:sarcasm: