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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:23 PM Original message |
What's behind Obama's recent reversals: Torture Photos, DADT, Military tribunals. |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. not that I agree with those decisions either, but maybe he needs some of the "shadow government" |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. I don't know what you mean by |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. the parts of the military and intelligence communities that do what they want |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yup - to hell with the anti-war supporters who gave him this gig. He's all about... |
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Fresh_Start (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
3. Its not like its new news that the MIC is running the country |
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Metta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
4. In trying to not have drama, he forces it into the process. Plus, he has no courage. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I truly wish I could argue with your post. |
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Metta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Yes, I agree it wasn't so. So sad. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. sounds like a personal problem.. |
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Metta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. I've always found that name calling a total stranger is an effective way of clarifying the narrative |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. you mean like coward? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Obama's not a "total stranger". |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Oh believe me.. I know how .. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
6. I don't know why I think this.. |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. I noticed today that all the torture talk is about Gitmo |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. Sounds like they're afraid of more than that.. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
43. Most of those people have done nothing wrong. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I remember a few years ago.. |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
7. What is this, Argentina in the '70s? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
8. Obama has not reversed his position on DADT or tribunals. |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. He called for the end of both |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Obama is still calling for an end to DADT. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. He didn't call for the end of tribunals... he said they were flawed and needed to be fixed |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. well that's news! |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Read DU |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. well, that's news too |
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incapsulated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. We have always been at war with Eastasia. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
10. I take him at his word on the photos. The military said releasing the pics |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
26. I won't take the word of anyone who flips this easily. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
12. that sounds like bullying, |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
20. its too bad hes playing warman |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. How did you think our foreign policy.. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I was seriously hoping we could stop playing military empire. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I think it will stop..when it can no longer.. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
22. DLC |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
27. FISA, DC gun ban, etc. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Wasn't the DC gun ban ruled unconstitutional by the USSC? |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
28. Rahn & the DLC are running the show, & apparently Obama is OK with that. |
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edhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. It's Rahm |
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marlakay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. I was thinking the same thing |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
42. I'm aware of that. My eyesight is failing. |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
37. A large portion of "the military" are desperate for him to get their asses out of Iraq |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-15-09 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
40. he has them right where he wants them |
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