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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 02:24 PM Original message |
There is a debate about torture? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. We seem to tie too much of our "understanding" to labels ... words, not REALITY. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
25. I absolutely love your quote from MacDonald's "Lilith." |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Thanks! When I was reading it and came upon that quote it just struck me dumb. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. have you read/listened to Eckhart Tolle? He addresses this very accessibly. |
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Towlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. The first line is an especially appropriate response to accusations of "socialism" |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. As a recovering posturer and strutter |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. So much of sane and decent life was "deregulated" by the Republicons and now it's "normal" |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
26. Clarissa Pinkola Estes calls this process "normalizing the abnormal," |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. "Normalizing the abnormal" -- the post Reagan era. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. Torture? We don't torture.. |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Ouch!! What stung me. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Did I read that the insects had their... |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. Yep...that's their excuse |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
4. This week I learned that there's good faith torture and bad faith torture! |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. and I just learned - mere minutes ago - that |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. We need a hair rending smilie. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Yes. Yes. and Yes! |
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Jazzgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. What about a little something like this. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. LOL! That works. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Thank god someone still has some fucking sense left... n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. No kidding. I"m still fighting off the feeling I'm on acid |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
6. K&R Amazing init? |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. Well said... |
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MarjorieG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
8. Only about spending all the time and resources as sole definition of justice, urgency of the countr |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. "We can still prosecute if the entire country wants it" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. So, we poll to see if we still have the rule of law? |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
10. If monkeys do fly out of your ass, you best explain how they got there |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. I was out of gerbils. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. I hope they are small monkeys for your sake |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Well, they only get so small, you just gotta keep their nails trimmed... |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
19. K & R ! |
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Duende azul (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
23. Thank you, k&r |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
24. There is no "torture debate" and there doesn't need to be one either. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Well look around DU, there is a debate, the RW "smokescreen" as you call it |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
35. Yes according to some here anyone is capable of torture, murder and child rape |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I agree that some around here have lost their minds... |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-18-09 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
36. Your post implies criticism of The President's decision not to prosecute torturers. |
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truth2power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. ... |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
37. Considering tv shows like 24 |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-19-09 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
40. Those who spin and defend these actions |
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