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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 09:40 PM
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Is the Autodidact an extinct species?
Edited on Sat Mar-28-09 09:42 PM by Mike 03
Do any you just become obsessed with some topic you want to learn everything you can possibly learn about, regardless of whether you have a professor or not?

Do you ever just buy textbooks and devour them for the sheer pleasure of learning about something you don't have a formal degree in?

I just need to know, for my personal sanity, how strange this is.

Everyone always wants to know what credentials one has to express an opinion. (Even though nowadays you can just Google on studies and find the latest credible double-blind studies on nearly everything). Besides, plenty of people have opinions on all sorts of things they have no clue whatsoever about.

Is it demented to aspire to learn something on your own by reading and studying respected texts? Or is a habit of a bygone era from Chaucerian documentations, when there was actually a profession called just being a Scholar, and someone paid you simply to learn?

Anybody out there just study for the sheer joy of studying? Or do I need a therapist?

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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 09:42 PM
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1. Don't get me started on bees.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 01:46 AM
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30. Or Will Pitt n/t
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 09:44 PM
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2. My problem is being extremely interested in MANY topics! polyautodidact?
and no, you don't need a therapist for that unless your other life functions are stopping (eating, hygiene, etc.) We probably all need a therapist for something :crazy:
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 10:32 PM
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13. Polyautodidact... Yes, I love this. This is me, to a precise pinpoint. NT
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 02:26 AM
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34. Yeah, I'm a GIFTED polyautodidact - is it wrong to hide it?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 09:45 PM
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3. (shrug) America is a very stupid country. knowledge, however gained, is a rarity.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 09:47 PM
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4. you're in good company:
me. i do it via the internet these days.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 09:48 PM
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5. I started reading about LINUX in 1995....
IN 2000 I went to work at IBM in the Linux Technology Center in Austin, helping IBM plan adopting LINUX company wide....

I have had no formal computer education.

I learned to make my own black and white film developer in 1983 when I was taking large format photographs..

no formal photographic training.

Everthing I know I have learned by living in libraries and bookstores...
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 01:06 AM
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26. Cool
How large a format and what kind of camera or exposure mechanism? Why would you develope your own chemistry?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 01:15 AM
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28. I had an old 8X10 view camera.. I wanted to make my own developer so I could
approximate the kinds of materials the giants of black and white photography were using in the 30's, '40s and '50's...
Ansel Adams Ruth Bernhardt, Edward Weston.....etc, etc.....

Never made any money at it but the science was fun and being able to get desired results from the entire photographic process was most excellent....



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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 01:36 AM
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29. Absolutely superb...
I shot up to medium format but never so well as to merit my negative size. That said I did a little newspaper work shooting in Illford monochromatic C-41 since we had no lab, and learned to do half-tone screens. I love film and old graphics stuff but started learning it just when it started to die.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 09:51 PM
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6. You do not need a therapist. I think the age of the autodidact and independent
scholar is returning.

In the age of Kindle, online access to information and knowledge, and ability to interact at a distance, everything is changing.



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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:31 PM
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22. (facepalm)
Kindle.

BWAHAHAAHAAHAAAA!!!!
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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 09:58 PM
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7. I think, that the only thing you ever truly own, is your experience and what you know.
Knowledge is the true currency of mankind. So I would say that you are saner than Wall Street by a country mile.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 10:08 PM
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9. You're just fine.
Trust me. I'm an autodidact. :)

Keep up the good, but uncredited, work.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 10:19 PM
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10. Ask me anything.
Just kidding, I'm a polymath.
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Lionel Mandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 10:20 PM
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11. No, yes, and yes, respectively.
Depending on what you want to study, library access can be a problem. Most public libraries do not have esoteric or scholarly books, nor do they subscribe to learned journals. In many libraries, hard copies of journals are being replaced by electronic versions. Some electronic data bases are free, but others require a subscription. College and university libraries subscribe on behalf of their students and faculty, but these resources are not available to the general public. It's an uphill battle for an independent scholar.

I read and study for the sheer joy of studying. I don't need a therapist, and neither do you.
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Tuvok Obama Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 10:29 PM
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12. You don't need a therapist. Just buy some psychology textbooks
and psychoanalyze yourself.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 10:32 PM
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14. No says the man with a house full of tomes....
.....
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 10:34 PM
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15. The honorable thing for me to do would be to reply to every one of your posts.
thank you so much.

I am so happy that so many people here know what I'm talking about or appreciate learning.

Honestly, I was worried I was losing my mind.

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 10:40 PM
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16. Hell, no. I've been doing it since I was three years old.
Of course, in our household, the Encyclopedias were in the crapper....why? It's the perfect place to multitask!

I have more degrees than I'll ever need, too. AND...I love to beat a subject to death. It's not strange at all.

Some of our nation's best lawyers never set foot in a law school--they apprenticed.

There is no "right" way to learn. And anytime anyone tells you that there is, tell them that Alberto Fucking Gonzales graduated from Harvard Law!!!
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InkAddict Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 10:50 PM
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17. Books have always been my friends.
Sometimes, I feel like a great sponge, sopping up tidbits of understanding here and there...it's the quick-witted regurgitation and automatic conversational synthesis that doesn't kick in on time...always too little too late, my learning seems to be behind the curve of usefulness sometimes. I'd sure like to learn how to use a crystal ball to advantage. Can I get back to you on those answers?
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 10:54 PM
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18. The day I stop learning on my own, I can be declared dead
Early in my school career I realized that it is more valuable to know how to find information and learn independently than to memorize and regurgitate the limited subjects they teach in classrooms. And I always felt sorry for my classmates that thought learning was a boring chore and avoided knowledge as much as possible.

Good for you to want to study!
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 10:59 PM
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19. It's fair to say that you have a lot of company here, Mike. Fun, isn't it?
:hi:

Hekate


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HeresyLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:01 PM
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20. You are in excellent company!
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:27 PM
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21. A touch of Asperger's never hurt anyone
It's the geek "disease".

I would say most of here do a lot of self teaching. I learned how to get through school but it was after school that I learned to love learning for it's own sake.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-28-09 11:41 PM
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23. I do that stuff all the time.
Edited on Sun Mar-29-09 12:06 AM by Odin2005
Having Asperger's Syndrome helps, I'll get interested in something and be obsessed with it for months, if not years. :rofl:

The Powers-that-Be don't like us Renaissance Men, we can connect dots and see through their BS. "Multi-Disciplinary" is my middle name.

I'm currently trying to teach myself Spanish and Latin. Ancient Greek would be nice, too.

I'm 100% self-taught in:
Philosophy
Linguistics
History of the Classical World
Medieval European History
Various Cyclical Historical Models (Toynbee, Spengler, Quigley, Strauss & Howe, etc)
Geology
Paleontology
Psychology
HTML & XML programming languages
Climatology
Mythology
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 02:00 AM
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32. Except
XML and HTML are not programming languages, they are Markup Languages, thus the ML in the name. To be a programming language, it needs to be able to do math. ;)

Another autodidact checking in.

-Hoot

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 02:01 AM
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33. Doh, thanks for correcting me!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 12:00 AM
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24. After taking a post-vet school breather from "learning" for about 5 years, lol,
I plunged headlong into devouring nonfiction books over 20 years ago and haven't stopped. I also read some fiction, but it's much harder for somebody to convince me a fiction book is worth my time than nonfiction.

I am particularly fond of learning about home food production and processing, and practical crafts, but I have a lot of other interests, too. Interestingly, I read few political or current events books, probably because I rely on traditional media and now DU for a lot of that information.
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 12:53 AM
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25. Not extinct yet, and not so strange,
though I have found it to be a sure path to poverty. Involved but not employable. After three months worth of British history, I'll switch either to AI software, because I should, or Italian cuisine, because a particular cookbook has been calling me. And there is that nagging geology gap. And just how evil was John Winthrop? Or maybe Moorish architecture again, because I didn't really get it the first time.

Keep your head, it's the only one you'll get.

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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 01:11 AM
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27. No, you don't need a therapist.
Edited on Sun Mar-29-09 01:13 AM by Kitty Herder
And I don't think curiosity and love of learning will ever die out. They're part of human nature and they're what drive the autodidact.

Some people do think it's strange. The town librarian thinks I'm a little nuts because of the obscure books I order through interlibrary loan, but the library only buys what is popular and judging by the content of our library, few people in town read anything but trashy novels. :eyes: I happen to think reading nothing by trashy novels is strange.
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Godhumor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 01:48 AM
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31. I've been obsessed with quantum physics for about five years now
Edited on Sun Mar-29-09 01:55 AM by Godhumor
It is as close to scientific magic as you can get--endlessly fascinating and truly bizarre.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 07:04 PM
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35. Lots of them out there.
The problem is, they often have trouble using their knowledge. No credits, no certificates, no degrees.

Take FDR. He started to study law, dropped out and passed the bar. He was an attorney, but without the law degree. Try that these days and see how many clients you get.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-29-09 07:10 PM
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36. Does switching careers every 3 years count?
I've read my share of textbooks, but dig the on the job training, too.

Sucks for your income level though. Even though I use most of the skills I've picked up, they're just not valued the same way when you're new to an industry - or I'm not marketing myself properly.
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