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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 08:56 AM
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Would you apply for this job?
I found this on Craigslist for Syracuse. The tone seems really--well, nasty. I know times are tough and this may actually be a good job for the right person, but wow. 40 units an hour, repetitive lifting of 50 pounds, on your feet for the whole shift, random drug testing, 55-60 hours per week, no lateness or absence "tolerated"--all for ten bucks an hour.

Reply to: [email protected]
Date: 2009-03-18, 1:06PM EDT


PC Repair / Tester Troubleshoot defective computer components and repair/replace as required. Load and test software on computers. Maintain accurate repair data and reporting. Maintain a neat, orderly & safe work Environment. Must be detailed oriented. Very fast paced (300 units per night = 40 units per hour). Lifting up to 50 lbs repetitiously (computer pc's). On feet entire shift. Team Environment /work well with others. Education / Experience: 2 yr. Degree or equivalent experience in a related computer discipline. Must have the ability and experience to do basic repairs on a PC. All positions are 2nd shift - Monday-Friday- Hours are from 3:30pm to Midnight with Mandatory Overtime each night of at least 2 hours. Must work Saturdays from 1pm-7pm. Need Detail oriented individuals . Want people that have their own transportation MUST PASS A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK AND DRUG SCREEN ALONG WITH RANDOM DRUG TESTING WHILE ON THE JOB. Pay is $10/hr & $15/hr for anytime over 40 hrs. This is a temp to hire position after 13 weeks if things work out. Sapphire Staffing Group will NOT TOLERATE any lateness or absences during the 90 day Probation period. NO EXCUSES so if you are not up to working 55-60 hrs per week, please don't apply. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU READ THE ENTIRE JOB DESCRIPTION BEFORE SENDING YOUR RESUME!
Send resumes to [email protected] or fax to 218-7828 or call 218-7826 for more information




* Location: Liverpool
* Compensation: $10/hr
* Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.
* Please, no phone calls about this job!
* Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.

PostingID: 1080606235


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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:02 AM
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1. If they're this nasty in an ad I can only imagine how nasty they are in person
They're basically advertising that they want to abuse you. I suspect they assumed they could get away with an ad like this in Craig's list.

Some people really show their true colors when times get tough.

Regards
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Kalyke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:04 AM
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2. $10 a hour?
Are they insane?
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:10 AM
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3. That's a typical "whaaa we can't find qualified US workers" job posting
PC repair and troubleshooting at the rate of 40 units per hour? Um that's less than two minutes per; it doesn't even make sense.

And yet with those kind of production schedules, they still have time to administer random drug tests. :eyes:
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:44 AM
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25. Employees probably have to pee for urinalysis on their own time.
:thumbsdown:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 07:40 PM
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38. Quite.
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NOW tense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:12 AM
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4. at $10/hr. and that tone
I suspect a very high turnover rate.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:15 AM
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5. What kind of computers weigh 50 lb?
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dem629 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:24 AM
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10. LOL. That's what I was wondering.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:32 AM
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13. I just build one and it was pretty hefty.
It weighs about 35 lbs without packaging.

Regards
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:33 AM
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14. Mine is close to it, but it's a very nice case with soundproofing
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:39 AM
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21. It's a standard job description
Not necessarily specific to the task at hand. I worked at a TV station for several years, and every want ad, even for desk jobs, had the standard line "Must be able to lift 40 lbs." I never did find out why they included it, though. The place didn't discriminate based on physical disability (as this would seem to imply) and they never really stuck to that requirement... :shrug:
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 05:56 PM
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34. Servers
It took three people to lift and lineup a new server in the rack
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 07:39 PM
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37. Or monitor, printer, or other peripheral...
Most PCs weigh 20~35 pounds. Larger ones (e.g. servers) could weigh nearly 50.
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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:17 AM
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6. On the bright side
the random drug testing means you'll get to pee every once and a while.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:20 AM
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7. Randstad - worst of the worst
Sapphire Staffing is part of Randstad, who are the worst of the worst as far as "staffing agencies" go - you work through them and there is a very good chance you won't get paid.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:36 AM
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18. Same goes for Office Team (Robert Half International)
I had an assignment through them a couple years ago and I only got about half my paychecks, despite numerous calls.

Also, I've heard that most of their job listings are fake.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:21 AM
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8. Wow, they're looking for a dream employee at slave wages
$10/hr for a breakneck pace during a night shift?

There's no fucking way I'd even SEND my PC to a place like that.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:24 AM
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9. Wow, that is a minute and a half per unit
So even if you are working on multiple units at once, seems to be a herculean task. And all second shift work? No thanks. You do have to go to the bathroom occasionally.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:25 AM
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11. Gee, ten to fifteen bucks an hour,
with the random drug testing and and lack of tolerance, how can I pass it up?

What assholes.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:35 AM
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16. Not to mention the mandatory overtime
Mandatory overtime after working 8 hours at night? They can kiss my ass. I've done second shift for 10 years. It's not that bad I've even occasionally done overtime but I'll be damned if someone is going to tell me I have to do overtime every fucking night. If I have to work overtime every night then it's not overtime it's part of the shift and 10 hours 5 days a week is not acceptable.

Regards
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:31 AM
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12. Delete
Edited on Mon Mar-23-09 09:32 AM by Coyote_Bandit
oops......
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:34 AM
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15. I made 10/hr working at a 7-Eleven in 1990
No degree required, that's for damn sure.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:36 AM
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17. $10 bucks an hour in NY?
Er, does the applicant ride his/her used bike from the box under the bridge or would they have a 2 bed apartment with several roommates?

Does said employer still think this is 1996?

Do companies think they can get away with paying the average American worker $29,000 to 40,000 a year in real dollars (in other words, all things factored in, NO change or a decrease in wages for decades) . . . forever . . . while the general cost of living continues to go up and still have an economic recovery??

It's just amazing what we let these assholes get away with nowadays.

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:42 AM
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23. It's barely "squeak-able" in WNY
Lots of rural areas close to where this job is located. Might be do-able if you already owned your own trailer...but likely not.
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kojak Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:37 AM
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19. I get calls from recruiters for shit like this all the time
The ones I love are the piece work ones where I travel to people's home to do the troubleshooting and work. Everything within a 35 mile radius of the home office is $25 per ticket and anything over is $50. The area I'll be covering is fucking New England. That shit pay isn't even going to pay for gas.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:39 AM
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20. Only if you're really desperate. nt
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:41 AM
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22. No
If it's 55-60 hours a week, it sounds like a job for two people.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:42 AM
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24. If I needed a job I would
I mean, a jobs a job when you don't have one. Otherwise, no.

First, the fact that it's on CraigList and is through a temp agency would make me dubious. The tone of the ad indicates assholes run the temp agency. Pay seems typical for this sort of work now that we've outsourced so much level one type tech support (FYI: Dell was paying 13/hour for this same job back in 1993...before outsourcing). I'm not sure how one loads and tests software on 40 units per hour...or how the hell they generate that many broken units...that's 1500 broken computers in a five day work week.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:46 AM
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26. Hell NO!
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:49 AM
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27. I did do this job for Sapphire. It wasn't the job I was hired for so
they were paying me a little more than that. I was hired to do on-site next day troubleshooting after a major upgrade project. When I showed up for work the first morning they told us that there was a hold on that job because the machines that we were supposed to support hadn't actually been imaged or shipped yet. They gave us the option of going home or going out in the warehouse and helping with imaging and loading the machines. It soon became apparent the job I was actually hired for was never going to happen.

I'm almost fifty with multi-level degenerative disc disease. I was working 50 hours a week loading carts up with 40 computers at a time, then loading them onto racks, hooking them up, imaging them, taking them back to the carts, then pulling the monitors and matching them with the systems and shoving em off to the dock. I was working in a warehouse with no heat in January and February. The job almost killed me. Literally. But that's another story and not typical I'm sure.

But being as how the job I had trained for that had been providing for me and my kids got shipped overseas to India in 2001, I have had no choice but to take contract job after contract job exactly like the one in that ad. At the time having a job that was killing me, yet provided for my family, seemed like a better choice than no job at all. Sometimes you just do what ya gotta do. :shrug:

Just trying to give a little insight as to why one might take this job.


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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:51 AM
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28. Sounds good!!
For a geek with an agenda to install their own backdoor warez as well, in revenge if fired after 90 days, by creating a potential bot army, and then selling or using them for profitable spamming and perhaps DDOS attacks if so. 60 hrs per week x 40=2400 x 13 weeks=31,200 bots, Unless, of course, these imbeciles expect 60 per hour repaired on OT.

:evilgrin:
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 10:58 AM
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29. Thanks for the replies, everyone.
I haven't been looking for tech support jobs in a while and thought this listing sounded just awful. But, of course, sometimes you gotta take what you can get. I'm itching to send off a nastygram to the company, though.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 12:19 PM
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30. If you live in the area, it might be fun to apply.
Just to be able to call them out face-to-face.

And you might also point out that you were "detail-oriented" enough to notice they used the phrase twice in the posting.
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 12:21 PM
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31. When I apply for a job where the make a BIG FREAKIN' DEAL about drug testing
I bring a fresh sample right to the interview.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 12:32 PM
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32. I made more money per hour working at Walmart. I was allowed to sit, no
mandatory overtime, drug test only on initial hire. If I had to be late or take time off they were willing to work with me, and I didn't have to have a 2 year degree to get hired. Gee imagine that, Walmart.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 12:51 PM
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33. This company needs a UNION!
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 06:07 PM
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35. Maybe we should all email
them and ask them if they've lost their minds?

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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 07:32 PM
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36. I did email them.
Used the joke from upthread about it being a good thing they were doing all those random drug tests, otherwise the workers would never get a pee break. And said I hoped the company would soon be visited by an aggressive union organizer.
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ohheckyeah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:38 PM
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39. Snap!
Good response.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:40 PM
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40. Looks like a sweat shop
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-23-09 09:42 PM
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41. Flag this kind of crap as spam!
I always flag lowballing assholes and con artists on Craigslist.

I flag out of state jobs posted on Craigslist as well.

Doug D.
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