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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 06:56 AM
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Poll question: Off the table vs. Single Payer?
I am hearing the talking point (even from Dems) that we have to take Single Payer off the table due to already existing institutions like HMO's and for-profit insurers essentially being put out of business if something like H.R. 676 passes. Now don't get me wrong I would love to kick the people working for those entities out on the street but I want Single Payer more than that satisfaction. This leads to my question:

Would you be willing to make a one time, tax payer funded payment of 250K to 1 million dollars, depending on the position, to every individual in these "institutions" that may be impacted by unemployment if H.R. 676 is passed?
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 07:07 AM
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1. oops
i read it wrong. they would get 250k to 1 mil APIECE? change my vote. they can collect unemployment. the last time i did it was something like $233 or $333 a week.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 08:22 AM
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2. I think that's too much money.
A lot of them will be needed in the transition to Universal Health Care and/or in the new system.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 08:33 AM
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3. I agree, I think we can employ all of them in the transition. However as another
means of refuting the BS argument against Single Payer I wish people would bring that and this up. Just because the institutions would have to change doesn't mean we can't do it.
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 09:30 AM
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4. Fuck the HMO's and FOR PROFIT INSURERS. They had 30 years to
get health care right. They didn't.
People die every day due to their GREED.

If you are worried about putting people out of jobs, DON'T.
I'm sure those people will move to the BETTER PAYING JOBS that
the govt. will provide when HR 676 passes.
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 02:34 PM
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8. Amen
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 09:39 AM
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5. What? Reward the sociopath bastards that profit from death? pffft
What's a few lost sociopath jobs compared to the millions of lives saved by getting rid of them?
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 09:41 AM
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6. Can we pay the people in poverty due to denied coverage, first?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 09:42 AM
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7. I guess the question is whether to pay ransom for health care held hostage.
:shrug:
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 08:01 AM
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9. I think we pay the ransom or never get it. System is too easy to game by the
for-profit insurance lobby.

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