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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 11:23 AM
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Chinese ships 'harass' US vessel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7933171.stm

Chinese ships 'harass' US vessel

Five Chinese ships have manoeuvred dangerously close to a US navy vessel in the South China Sea, the US government has said.

US officials said the incident came after days of "increasingly aggressive" acts by Chinese ships.
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The incident happened on Sunday as the USNS Impeccable was on routine operations in international waters 75 miles (120km) south of Hainan island, a US statement said.

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http://www.msc.navy.mil/N00p/pressrel/press00/press26.htm

USNS Impeccable Christened Nov. 1

Champagne graced the bow of new Military Sealift Command ship USNS Impeccable during a christening ceremony on Nov. 1 at Halter Marine in Pasacagoula, Miss. The ceremony marked the official naming of USNS Impeccable, the only ship in her class.

MSC operates eight ocean surveillance ships that use a towed-array sensor system, called SURTASS, to support the Navy's antisubmarine warfare capability. The SURTASS mission is to gather ocean acoustical data for antisubmarine warfare and rapidly transmit the information to the Navy for prompt analysis.

Three SURTASS-equipped ships, the Stalwart-class, are mono-hulled, while the four remaining ships, the Victorious class, are small, waterplane-area, twin-hull, or SWATH, ships like Impeccable. MSC operates a fourth mono-hulled ship equipped for the SURTASS mission, MV Cory Chouest, on a long term charter. The Victorious-class SWATH ships provide a more stable platform for the use of SURTASS equipment than the mono-hulled ships. Two hundred and eighty-one-feet long, Impeccable is capable of a sustained speed of 12 knots and is considerably larger and faster than the 235-foot Victorious-class ships, which are capable of a sustained speed of 9.6 knots.

Impeccable has a more powerful propulsion plant and is designed specifically for deploying two towed-array sonar systems -- a passive system, which listens for acoustic information, and an active system which emits a low frequency and works in conjunction with the passive system to gather acoustic data.

"MSC has come a long way since 1958 when the Military Sea Transportation Service charter was expanded to include operating scientific support ships involved in oceanographic research, missile tracking, communications and other special missions," said Vice Adm. Holder, USN, Commander, Military Sealift Command.

Today, MSC operates about 30 Special Mission ships around the world providing operation platforms and services for unique U.S. military and federal government services with missions as varied as oceanographic surveying and counter-narcotic operations.

"USNS Impeccable will support the Navy as a platform for scientists from the Integrated Undersea Surveillance Systems community," said Vice Adm. Holder. "We at MSC will operate the ship. We will provide the civilian mariners for the engine room, the wheelhouse and the galley."

The Honorable H. Lee Buchanan III, Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Research, Development and Acquisition, delivered the principal address at the christening ceremony. Leah Gansler, wife of the Honorable Jacques S. Gansler, Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Technology, and Margareta Augustine, wife of Norman Augustine, former chairman and CEO of Lockheed Martin Corp., served as the ship's co-sponsors and broke the ceremonial bottles of champagne across the ship's bow -- officially naming USNS Impeccable. Also present were Vice Adm. Holder and Rear Adm. Dennis Morral, USN, Program Executive Officer for Expeditionary Warfare, Chief of Naval Operations Staff.

Military Sealift Command, the ocean transportation provider for the Department of Defense, operates about 110 noncombatant Navy ships daily around the world. MSC ship missions vary from the transport and afloat prepositioning of defense cargo; to underway replenishment and other direct support to Navy ships at sea; to at-sea data collection for the U.S. military and other U.S. government agencies.
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cloudbase Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 11:41 AM
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1. I was out there on the Bowditch
several months ago. We were engaged in what was officially called 'non-scientific research.'
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 11:48 AM
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2. I used to be engaged in the same field in the Navy.
Edited on Mon Mar-09-09 11:54 AM by formercia
Baiting Cuban patrol boats to chase us.

One night, in Havana Harbor, we had over 100 Cuban Fire Control Radars locked on us. That's exactly what we wanted them to do.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 05:42 PM
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3. almost like certain interest had/have an interest in war
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 06:48 PM
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4. our navy would never harass a chinese ship 75 miles off our coast
would they? hey, I'm just askin.
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-09-09 07:03 PM
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5. Well, the answer is actually yes and no..... I'll explain
The short answer to your question is that if a Chinese boat showed up within 100 miles of the United States coast the US Coast Guard and US Navy would certainly move aggressively to identify the boats. They would via voice communication ask the boats to identify themselves. If the boats failed to identify themselves then maritime laws take effect and it is legal to hinder the travel of the vessels.

Why?

Piracy and/or trafficking.

The second and most commonly used reason for impeding a boats travel would be aggressive behavior. I don't know if you can consider a mostly civilian crew towing around a sonar array aggressive.


Anyways, I personally find it amusing that the Chinese are clever enough to send out a bunch of fishing boats clearly manned by Chinese Navy personnel. The mooning made by chuckle. It's almost like the Chinese leadership just wants a funny story in the Newspaper that makes everybody feel good. Ever moon someone? Feels good!
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:20 AM
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6. KGB ship anchored off Portsmouth NH in 80's
A spy ship operated by the KGB remained anchored off of Portsmouth NH for long periods gathering electronic intelligence.

I spoke with a fisherman who used to routinely visit the vessel trade with the sailors on board. He said they were friendly and allowed them to pull along side.

They operated without any problems since they were in international waters and posed no navigation hazard.
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