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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 09:55 AM Original message |
How much money would your household save if you didn't have to pay for medicine/health coverage? |
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Belial (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
1. Maybe @ $6000 a year.. but I would pay the same |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Where do you get the number $6000 more in taxes per year? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. It certainly wouldn't be zero |
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Lost in CT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
16. That seems close to what it would average per household even with |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. How do you know that? |
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demodonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. No you wouldn't pay more, unless.... |
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Belial (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #13 |
40. Define... hell of a lot of money.. |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
70. Self employed people will pay a lot more... |
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Profprileasn (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 09:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
74. Probably right |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:42 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. Is that why we're rated as #37 in the world in health care, |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
2. Nearly $1000 in premiums, before you get to the $2500 deductible |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
4. 0 dollars |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Out of curiousity, how is the medical care in the military? |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #12 |
38. Well... |
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ogneopasno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. I've got a good friend who basically joined the military for health care. Unfortunately, he ended |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. I would label that as a very poor reason to join... |
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ogneopasno (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Oh, he wasn't surprised at all. He was just what the army wanted, though -- a smart, hard-luck guy |
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Cid_B (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. It usually does.... |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
5. My wife's COBRA alone is $365/mo. |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
7. I was just talking about how much we've spent on health care this year with my wife this morning. |
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Coyote_Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
8. Ummmm...... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
9. Between $2,000 and $3,000 per year, but someone would have to pay for it somehow |
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demodonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. PLEASE READ about HR 676. Learn how it would be funded. Start here: |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. "employer payroll tax of 4.5%, an employee payroll tax of 3.3%" |
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demodonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:42 AM Response to Reply #20 |
29. You also get the security of knowing that if your employer cuts coverage, cuts YOU, or goes under... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I have decent coverage for prescriptions, but because of complex eye problems... |
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demodonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Oh yes -- one more thing. Local, county, and state governments would pay less for their employees |
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Yellow Horse (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #20 |
43. You would only pay 3.3% of salary, & save the $2-3K you are paying now -- get lots more coverage. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. My employer would have to get that 4.5% somewhere |
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Yellow Horse (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:46 AM Response to Reply #50 |
78. It comes from the money your employer does NOT have to spend for insurance premiums under this! |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 02:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
59. I'm assuming the self employed would have to pay that full 7.8%, just like we do for social security |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. People who don't have high healthcare costs (now) would likely see a financial hit |
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Yellow Horse (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 04:52 AM Response to Reply #63 |
79. And people who don't have ANY coverage now would likely have a chance to live... |
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HillbillyBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
42. It means the cost of what we lay out in tax payer funds for |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
10. Over 5000.00 and that's with medicare. |
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Lost in CT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
14. About 1500 a year... so yes I would pay more for universal... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
15. I would have saved a bundle over being uninsured for 20+ years |
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Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
18. I would probably end up spending. |
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Kalyke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
19. But you would have to pay taxes. |
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xiamiam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
21. I pay 7200 without .8900 if i use it for anything...plus co pay doctors visits, hospital..nt |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
22. A rough estimate from last year |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
23. I wouldn't save any money, because I don't pay for those things now. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
24. Please, Take Off Those Rose-Colored Glasses |
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demodonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #24 |
32. Our glasses (if we can afford them) are BLOOD-covered now... |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. And People With No Brains |
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area51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
69. Navarro study |
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HillbillyBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
64. Speaking of glasses..mine cost 375 for lenses alone and since I have |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. I've Always Had to Pay For Glasses. Dental, Too |
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haele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
25. At least $200 a month for co-pays and expenses. If you tossed in the monthly premium. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
26. If that list were true |
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RT Atlanta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
27. min $8,000 a year in premium |
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recoveringrepublican (779 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
28. well the dental would save us crap loads, I have 3 kids, and I have horrible teeth |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
30. We pay approximately $20k/yr for insurance |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
33. $260 / mo for premiums alone, for a high deductible policy that doesn't |
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JSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
34. Right now we pay $1300 a month |
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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
36. About $300 a month. n/t |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
37. I have to annualize mine before breaking down: |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
39. what about other collateral damage |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
41. about $3000 to $4000 per year. nt |
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lmn84 (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
44. I'd save over $10,000 |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
45. Maybe $5000/year. Not much. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
46. We had to give up insurance 5 years ago because we couldn't afford it. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
49. No less than $9600 a year |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
51. Its very hard to say, it varies from family to family |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
52. Several hundred in 2008. |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
54. Ouch "employer payroll tax of 4.5% an employee payroll tax of 3.3%" my healthcare costs would triple |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Actually, I redid the math and it would only be 2.5x more expensive than what we pay now. |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
55. I think that car insurance rates would drop drastically as well |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Yeah, because insurance companies are always looking to save us money |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
57. Between premiums and deductibles, I would have to spend |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
61. None |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. The original question had nothing to do with how much your taxes |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Yeah, but if my taxes go up I'm not "saving" anything. |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
68. I just recently got insurance through my company again..... |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
71. Not a whole lot, frankly |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
72. $22K/yr for two adults |
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suede1 (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
73. Thousands. |
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we can do it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
75. I'd Save Over $4000 on my Insurance and One Prescription and Co-pays |
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mwooldri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-06-09 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
76. Let me do a quick compare: UK vs US. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-07-09 05:17 AM Response to Original message |
80. Under a proposed state single payer plan, husband and myself would pay $175 a month |
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