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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:03 AM
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So, let's say you're 35 years old and looking for a political party.
Edited on Sat Feb-28-09 10:06 AM by Dawgs
You only have two to choose from, Republican or Democrat.

One party believes...

1) Protecting business interests is more important than climate change.
2) Giving tax cuts to the rich, and doing nothing else, will solve all of our economic problems.
3) Gay people are sick, and don't deserve the same rights as others.
4) Racism is okay, and jokes about black people (watermelon emails, cartoon monkey, etc...) is perfectly fine.
5) Bigoty against Mexicans is something to brag about.
6) War is the first option.
7) Being pro-gun and eliminating all abortions are top priority issues.
8) The most popular in the party are 'Joe the Plumber', a Talk Show Host, Sarah Palin, and George Bush.









the other party believes...

1) Global warming is real. And, creating green jobs will save the planet and economy.
2) Affordable Healthcare should be made available to everyone.
3) Gay people deserve equal rights.
4) Woman and minorities deserve to be treated just like everyone else.
5) War should only be used as a last resort.
6) The economy should be fixed by helping the poor and middle-class first.
7) The most popular in the party are Barack Obama, Al Gore, and Hillary Clinton.








You've known three Presidents when you were an adult; George Bush Sr., Bill Clinton, and George Bush Jr.

So, which party do you choose?
The one that hates anyone but white people, thinks rich people should be helped first, and denies climate change. Or, the one that has grown the economy, stayed out of war, and is working to fix global warming.

The next few decades are looking really good for Democrats. :)
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:09 AM
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1. Actually you have a number of parties to choose from
It's just that, for right now, the 'Pugs and the Dems are the two most dominant parties. I suspect that is going to change in the relatively near future. I can foresee the 'Pugs breaking into two separate parties, that of the RW fundies, Palin, Plumber, etc. and one of more moderate conservatives like Snow, etc.

The Dems could also very well suffer from a split as increasingly restless leftists decide that their issues aren't going to get addressed by the Dems, however rather than forge a new party, they will simply go to the Greens.

Frankly I think that this party would be better off with two things happening. First, publicly funded elections, from dog catcher to president. Second, a multitude of parties to represent the multitude of political positions in this country.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:19 AM
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4. I chose to create a scenario that limited the number of choices to two.
I think we all realize that there are more than two parties.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:40 AM
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8. So in other words you chose to ignore reality.
Alrighty then, well keep ignoring that good old reality then. Just don't whine when it bite you on the ass:shrug:
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:19 AM
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5. If Ross Perot, Ralph Nader, Jesse Ventura and Ron Paul
are your third party choices, you still only have two choices in this country, Republican and Democrat.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:43 AM
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10. Yeah, whatever
Another one who chooses to ignore the reality of the full political spectrum. You know, Democrats did the same thing back in the seventies, and they acted all sorts of surprised when the religious right, until then a complete non-factor, rose up and slapped them in the face with Reagan and his ilk. You're making the same dismissive mistake, don't whine when you get slapped in the face also.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:24 PM
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14. Hilarious
That is pretty much all I have to say about your argument for recognizing the 3 party system. Yeah I am really scared Ralph Nader and his three thousand supporters are going to "rise up and slap me in the face". You are a comedian.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:10 AM
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2. Silly
The two parties are just two faces of the same beast, the one that takes money from the richest and most corrupt donors that can be found and does whatever they want, damn the actual needs of the country. The only real difference is in the rationalizations they give on TV.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:18 AM
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3. So, what the fuck are you doing here?
Geez.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:20 AM
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6. Yeah what the fuck are you doing here?
Being on this site for as long as you apparantly have been and you come away from it thinking the Republicans are the same as the Democrats? Really? Do you want to take that back now?
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:40 AM
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9. this is the underground
not the establishment.

If you want to try and justify, oh, say, the latest round of $700 billion dollars going to failed institutions run by crooks - coincidentally the same exact thing the last administration did - be my guest.

It really doesn't take a lot of effort to come up with quite a long list of items on which the elites in the two parties are virtually indistinguishable.


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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 12:22 PM
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13. Again you failed to answer the question
Why are you here again?
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 11:10 AM
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12. yeah, that's why
The Bush years were SO similar to the Clinton years.

I mean, you could hardly even tell them apart...


:eyes:
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:21 AM
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7. Yep,
and as Obama's programs come to flower and create new jobs, we are respected and at peace with the world again, maybe even some over 35 will go Democratic as well.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-09 10:46 AM
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11. I chose the Lesser of Two Evils Party. aka: The Democratic Party.
Edited on Sat Feb-28-09 10:47 AM by Tierra_y_Libertad
In 1965. At best, they are usually the lesser of two evils. On (all too often) occasions the differences are minimal so I find another party to vote for.

"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." --Thomas Jefferson to Francis Hopkinson, 1789.

"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either would be unworthy of a reasonable or moral man." --Thomas Jefferson to William Branch Giles, 1795.

“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." --John Quincy Adams
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