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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 08:59 PM
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Ralph Nader emerges from the shadows to decipher America’s next political showdown
http://www.nypress.com/20/4/news&columns/feature.cfm

He will not say if he is planning a third straight run for the presidency in 2008, offering only that it is way too early for him to make that decision. Still, Nader is not shy when it comes to criticizing the Democratic Party’s current frontrunners.

Former North Carolina Senator John Edwards is becoming more progressive and has a good agenda on poverty, but he prefers Ohio Congressman and 2004 fringe candidate Dennis Kucinich. Illinois Senator Barack Obama, the current media golden boy of all potential candidates, is far too new to the political arena to even be seriously evaluated as a contender. But Nader saves particular ire for New York’s own Democratic candidate Senator Hillary Clinton, who made it official over the weekend that she would seek her party’s nomination.

For Nader, Hillary Clinton is the problem, not the solution. “I think she’d be a step down from Bill, who is not very high to begin with,” says Nader. If a more liberal Democrat is to be elected president in 2008, Nader’s machinations in 2000 might have set the stage for such an event. After failing to keep more left-leaning voters in line that year, prominent Democratic politicians have since taken to championing some of their causes more publicly.

In the ’90s Republicans were forced to begin to embrace the agenda of the Christian right in order to keep their electoral ducks in a row. Today, Democrats face a similar situation with their more liberal voting base. They have seen firsthand what can happen when you assume that a particular voting block will stay loyal based on a desire to avoid electing Republicans. This strategy, whereby liberals vote Democrat as the lesser of two evils, has diminished largely through the actions of a motivated activist base drawn in by new media methods, a strategy designed to force the party’s elite to pay attention.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:02 PM
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1. Memo to Nader.
Fuck. You.

(strong letter to follow)

You're one of the reasons we got stuck with this moran twice now.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:34 PM
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4. Roscoe :(
nevermind pouring it on Ralph. The problems inherent in society, and that foisted a grinning 1/2 wit like gee bush on it, go far beyond Ralph Nader and the smoke/mirrors media game we saw in 2k. Bush was soundly defeated in that election - but like the man who ended up with a black eye after he punched his nemesis, it's probably a waste of time to revisit the event. A very massive, very brutal and very determined enemy seized control of the US government - and that would have happened even if Ralph had thrown in with Gore (as Michael Moore wanted)....Peter Dale Scott, a historian of some note, once said the JFK murder formed a 'black hole' in the US political cultural/history, and unless it was filled (with the true facts etc) it eventually would ...well, i forget the rest but you get the picture. Blaming Ralph gets no one no where. Bush, and the pigmedia who created bush, is the problem (and is part of the aforementioned black hole in american/world history i would suggest)
Liberals got to say, to paraphrase Leon Trotsky and (probably) junyer bush(?) "we must press on to total victory or total ruin!" (trotsky said that after he was told czar Nick2 and his family had been brutally murdered in 1917, a fact the bolsheviks kept secret as long as they could. bush would have said that after 911)...total victory for liberals would be the overthrow of the bs game being played with humanity's future, the dependence upon, and fight over, hydrocarbons and all the systematic corruption that greed causes..global warming etc
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 10:05 PM
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9. Bullshit. Nader campaigned for Bush. No intellectual rationalization
can change that fact. He's as bloody and filthy as Bush. Unlike those who supported Nader, Nader knew how bad Bush would be. Remember his proclamation, that he wanted to tear America down so he could rebuild it the way he saw fit? He's worse than Bush.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:09 PM
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2. Go away Ralph
You brought us bush.

BTW in 2000 your campaign took money from repugs
to air t.v. spots in Florida.

Fuck you Ralph
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:15 PM
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3. Ralph Nader....Kingmaker Extraordinnaire....
Please, Ralph, crawl back under your rock and stay there.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:37 PM
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5. Back To The Shadows, You Worthless Useless Selfish Fucker.
No one said you could come out of your hole. Go crawl back in it like a good boy.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:38 PM
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6. Fuck Nader. nt
nt
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 09:44 PM
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7. Ralph is even older than McCain
He'll be 75 in 2008.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 10:03 PM
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8. I can't even spit far enough to express my opinion of that piece of shit.
IMO, every crime Bush committed, every child Bush slaughtered, every dollar Bush has stolen from the needy in this country, every shred of environment Bush has destroyed, Nader was 100% complicit in. The poor dupes who voted for him in 2000 may not have known enough about Bush to know he would do all of this, but Nader knew. Those who knew Bush knew. And Nader took Republican money to do it.

He doesn't like Hillary? Thanks for telling me, Ralph. She just moved up on leader board. Who else does that traitorous murdering sellout not like? They are my best friends. Go on the 700 club and peddle your wares, those are the people you have done the most for.
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july302001 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-26-07 10:19 PM
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10. Nader Needs to Shut Up!
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