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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:40 PM
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It was all the fault of the Baby Boomers
Working all those years and building up equity for retirement. Right on queue..poof. It's mostly gone now.

Did you think you could leave a tempting plum like that in plain view of organized crime and not have it stolen?
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Shardik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:45 PM
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1. Damnit!!!!
Us dirty bastids! Proud to be the first K&R.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:46 PM
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2. I was ready to smack you ......
..... but instead I will K&R because that's how I see it, too.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:58 PM
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18. I sucked you right in.
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 03:59 PM by formercia
Aren't you happy you came?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:47 PM
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3. it`s all my fault!
let`s see...had one good paying job in the 70`s i could have retired from then the i had another in the late 80`s but both went overseas. the last two..to old to get any retirement credits. social security is`t much but it pays the mortgage with change left over.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:48 PM
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4. Blaming the victims, huh?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:49 PM
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17. Like this Boomer should feel sorry for the perps.
With all this time on my hands, I can camp out at the Federal Prison to volunteer to push the needle on those assholes.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:48 PM
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5. *snerk*
Nice one. ;)
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:28 PM
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43. Honored
I humbly thank you.
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:49 PM
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6. Ha! I tricked those criminals.
This boomer barely has a pot to pee in.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:39 PM
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31. guess we're the smart ones..
:rofl:
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:43 PM
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33. amen to that!
:rofl:
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 04:50 AM
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53. Welcome to the lives of Generation X and the Silent Generation
Would you like a guided tour? I'll be your tour guide through the Gen X museum, but if you prefer to visit the Silent museum, my mother would be glad to guide you. :)
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EmilyAnne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:50 PM
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7. I thought the blame rested squarely on single mothers, illegal immigrants and Bill Clinton's
penis!

Now I don't know who to hate the most!
I'm in full mental crisis mode. Thanks a lot.
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greendog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:47 PM
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45. "Teenage Immigrant Welfare Mothers on Drugs"
:evilgrin:

Austin Lounge Lizards:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uByGoPGP9wY
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:51 PM
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8. oh and POOF! social security probably gone too
aren't you glad you put so much in that also?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:55 PM
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10. not unless they decide to steal it. right now, it's paying out as promised.
your 401k isn't.
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 02:53 PM
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9. Remember now, Bush wanted to place
the social security fund into the stock market.
Imagine if that happened?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:12 PM
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11. And the worst part of it..
That generation just older than the boomers? They've had it so good for so long, and they're the ones who refuse to pay for anybody else. At least, that's the way it is in Repub land.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:08 PM
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23. Every time they read their pay stub, they cried bloody murder.
Wah!!, I pay more in Social Security than I pay in Income Tax, Wah!!!
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county worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:14 PM
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12. I used to tell myself that I spent too much and didn't save enough.
But now I see that those who saved more than me have about as much as I do after their investments tanked.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:20 PM
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15. Then it really is your fault!
If you had saved more, the financial system would have had more of your money to throw down the rat hole. So it's your fault that the rats didn't get your money, too!
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:17 PM
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13. Yep, we did it. It's all our fault.
I tell my (gerontology) students: I paid my dues, including paying into Social Security for decades. Now it's up to you to figure out how to pay for my retirement.
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:19 PM
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14. Well, it does sadden me
that the best our generation could come up with as Presidential material was Bill Clinton and George Bush.

:cry:
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 03:21 PM
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16. OH, we came up with much better.
We just couldn't get them elected or appointed.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:17 PM
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25. The best of our generation made themselves unfit for politics
They got their heads full of radical notions -- which made them unacceptable to the political system and vice versa. Or else they got their heads full of pot and LSD -- with the same result. So there was nobody left who could go into politics except the College Republican types -- plus a very few members of the most moderate wing of the anti-war movement.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens now that the Internet ensures that everybody's juvenile follies are permanently written in stone. I'd like to think it means the society will be forced to get saner about formerly disqualifying youthful beliefs and behavior -- but I'm not holding my breath.

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TuxedoKat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:06 PM
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22. Well we do have Pres. Obama
as a late Boomer, or Gen. Jones Baby Boomer.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:01 PM
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19. Shelters will be crowded for the next 30 years or so.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:06 PM
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21. Shelters have been crowed
for the last 30 years or so.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:17 PM
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24. Not in Bangor
at least not in Winter.....
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:32 PM
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29. it's a boom industry!
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:44 PM
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34. What's next?
Timeshare cots?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:19 PM
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40. and then codominiumized cemetary plots
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:13 PM
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41. Would you prefer formal, or the Pol Pot rustic version?
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 07:23 PM by formercia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douaumont_ossuary




History

During the 300 days of the Battle of Verdun (21 February 1916–19 December 1916) approximately 230,000 men died out of a total of 700,000 casualties (dead, wounded and missing). The battle became known as the "Verdun mincing machine" and was conducted on a battlefield covering less than twenty square kilometers.

Ossuary information

The ossuary is a memorial containing the remains of soldiers who died on the battlefield. Through small windows, the remains of 130,000 unidentified French and German soldiers can actually be seen filling small, windowed alcoves around the edge of the building. Inside, the ceiling and walls are covered by some of the names of soldiers who fell in the battle of Verdun. Some of the names are from the fighting in the area in WWII. The families of the individual soldiers recognized here paid for their plaques. In front of the monument lies the largest cemetery of France outside Paris with 25,000 graves.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:02 PM
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20. The complaints of the oldest boomers about Social Security seem to have suddenly disappeared.
Edited on Tue Feb-17-09 04:07 PM by TahitiNut
It seems to be a condition of youth to believe that they're the first to discover their navels, but I've listened for several decades to folks merely a couple of years younger than I as they lamented the money taken out for Social Security.

Now, as they approach their "golden years" with NOTHING ELSE, seeing their dreams of riches evaporate with their stock portfolios, they seem to have grown suddenly silent.

It's a well-worn path that today's 30-somethings are treading -- as they fail to consider the alternative of having to directly support their parents and grandparents -- and it leads to the same place. This government has not done anything more wisely in the last 100 years, with the possible exception of the WW2 GI Bill.

It is with some relief that I need not eat crow as I accept my monthly Social Security check. I have NEVER once regarded that system as ill-conceived. Despite having a father, grandfather, and several uncles who worked all their lives never to collect, and having contributed the MAXIMUM into the system for far more than twice the required 'forty quarters,' I have always been a staunch proponent of Social Security.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:18 PM
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26. If the tens of thousands of paper dollars I've lost in my 401k and self-directed IRA were stolen,
Who has the money now?
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:28 PM
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27. I would like to know
Wouldn't you?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:36 PM
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30. With my limited understanding of securities
I'd say nobody has the money.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:42 PM
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32. Pump and Dump.
Is my thinking.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:05 PM
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38. I'm not an active trader
I probably haven't spent $100 in commissions in the last three years.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:19 PM
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42. It never existed.
Those companies weren't worth what the market had them priced at. Now that the globe is deleveraging and the growth of the money supply is shrinking due to lack of borrowing these "equities" just don't trade at the same amount of dollars that they used to.

At least that's how I understand it.
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greendog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:31 PM
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28. This baby boomer saw it comming...
...and decided to take 4 years of his "retirement" right after 9/11.

50,000 mile road trip.

Lived off the grid in a primitive cabin a stones throw from Glacier N.P.

Spent a couple years doing art.

>Did it all before the bastards could rob me.

>Did it while I was still in good health.

~~Fuck 'em! }(

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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:45 PM
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35. Good for you!
Glad you got yours before they got theirs!
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:51 PM
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36. good for you!
It sounds wonderful (at least for those who can live off the grid. I'm too much of a chicken... but I would love to have that freedom of spirit and the self-sufficiency it would take to live in a cabin like that, in a beautiful area like that). It sounds like you spent some time doing some really, really good living. That's so fantastic.

See how I'm still enjoying the sig line (or sig picture, I guess) that you shrank down to a useable size for me? Even though the election is over I am just so fond of this bunny with a pancake on its head that I can't bring myself to change it. Thanks! :hug:
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greendog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 05:13 PM
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39. In what respect, Charlie?
:rofl:

:hi:

Living off the grid isn't really that hard. You just have to get good at thinking ahead. Get your firewood in before it snows - learn to shop for a couple weeks worth of groceries at a time - stuff like that. I didn't try to grow my own food - at that elevation something like that would be VERY challenging.

I'm glad you enjoy the sig picture. It makes me smile when I see it. :)



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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:13 PM
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47. May you survive long enough to become a real burden on society.
I wish I had that luxury.


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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 04:59 PM
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37. Damn right.
And now my generation will have to care for you boomers in your old age. How dare you force us to start to think and act communally rather than look out for number 1!

:sarcasm:
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 07:39 PM
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44. I hear you!
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:07 PM
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46. The baby boomers have been a terrible generation.
They voted in Reagan, in mass. Their generation was in charge of the financial deregulation of the economy. Their generation led the wave of crazy religious right wingers. I say we kill all the boomers, and kill them tonight.





















(if you got the Eagles reference, you're probably a boomer)
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:14 PM
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48. I'm glad you explained that 'cause I'm totally lost. n/t
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crimsonblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:16 PM
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49. don't worry, it's the Alzheimers...
you'll forget the economy collapsed in a couple of years, you lucky bastard.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:39 PM
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51. I wish. I know some of the Eagles because I like oldies.
I'm part of the lost/forgotten generation behind the boomers.

We're so insignificant they couldn't even bother to come up with a real name for us.

Always old enough to see the cool shit the boomers got, but always too young to enjoy it.


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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-09 11:36 PM
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50. Hah! I fooled 'em. I never bought into their 401k con. As an ardent anti-capitalist, I refused
to participate. Wall Street should eat shit and die.

:hippie:
sw
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 08:47 AM
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55. Neither did I but my wife did.
20 years ago, I bought 32 acres of swamp and everyone laughed. They told me I could never build on it because of all the springs. Poland Spring is now building a pumping station down the road and the land sits right atop the aquifer.

When the smoke clears and they have to pay royalties to the landowners..... Think of me next time you buy a bottle of their water.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 02:29 AM
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52. "Retirement" - what's that? k*r!!!

I love the blame game from on high. Usually the media participates in this horse shit but I think they're afraid
that the scene after the Philadelphia presidential debate or Hannity's retreat down a street in New Hampshire will
become a regular affair.

Maybe us boomers should go out side and shout "take me" like Father Karras did in "The Exorsist." Or we could just
roll over and stop working altogether, move to Montana and grow some dental floss.


Bacon's Rebellion, the Civil War, and the start of the union movement are the three true political revolutions we've
seen in this country. (Our Revolutionary War, splendid as it was, concluded the English Civil War, but the others are
home grown.)

The economy is dead on arrival. Time to start over.

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 07:59 AM
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54. Going to Montana soon
gonna be a dental floss tycoon...yippy yay!
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-09 10:46 AM
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56. Montana
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