According to GEM$NBC, the Octuplet family filed for bankruptcy and

[malaise]

abandoned their home. Was this before or after the birth of these eight victims?
WTF is wrong with human beings? They already have six children!

[Midlodemocrat]

1. The mother of the children? or the grandparents?

Is that why the mother is living with the grandparents?

I don't think finances should factor into this, because I think that is a slippery slope, but I am absolutely appalled that this fertile woman was being treated for infertility.

[Raven]

2. The report I heard on the radio this afternoon (WBZ Boston) said

that this woman was single, lived with her family and had been artificially inseminated. There are now serious questions about the ethics of the Doc who did that. My question is why would a woman with 6 kids want to work to have another?

[K Gardner]

18. Wonder who paid for the freakin fertility treatments.. unless it was done for "free" up front,

with the promise the doctor would receive fame and glory and advertising compensation after the litter was born. Or, as I asked in another thread, maybe this was a surrogate-gone-wrong deal. Who knows.. it is VERY strange. Something just ain't right here.

[DJ13]

3. Theres no faster way to riches and notoriety than a mass birth

Sounds like taking the fertility drugs was a Hail Mary ploy.

The doctor who signed off on her getting the fertility meds should have his/her license to practice suspended.

[K Gardner]

15. Bingo. This is my theory as well. n/t

[kestrel91316]

16. No. Revoked. Some yahoo of an MD did IVF on a woman who was so

fertile she had 6 kids, including twins only a year or two old.

[NashVegas]

20. I Wonder

Are we sure she wasn't surrogating for a fee?

[kestrel91316]

26. here's been no mention of it. And I can't imagine a surrogacy deal involving

such a high-stakes gamble.

Medical guidelines for IVF are ONE TO THREE embryos. If they have 8 babies then there were a bare minimum of 8 embryos implanted. Some doctor needs his license yanked.

[SoCalDem]

4. Last year or the year before..according to CNN

No wonder they have been fairly quiet..The CNN report also said that " the family willl be needing some financial assistance".. gee...whodathunkit?

Talk about irresponsibility..

It's one thing to get people inspired to help, when a family has a fire or a death of a parent/spouse, and there are several children, but to deliberately add to a family of SIX children , 7& under..with a "dependent" Mom, and scant info about ANY Dad...and the "addition" is EIGHT precariously premature babies...whooo boy...

DCS must be having round-the-clock meetings..

[malaise]

23. This is the quintessence of irresponsibility

I wouldn't give them a dime.

[MercutioATC]

5. What idiot doctor gives fertility drugs to a woman with six children?

There should be a medical ethics issue here. I know there's not, but there should be.

[Deja Q]

8. What right has the doctor to tell the woman what to or not to do?

Sadly, it works both ways. :( It's the woman's choice.

(It's more than just her choice; there's a man and his sperm too, but we don't count.)

[Midlodemocrat]

10. Not in this case. This woman in no way, shape or form

met the dx of infertile. Treating her for infertility is medical malpractice. The doc should have his/her ticket pulled.

[KittyWampus]

11. It's a woman's choice to get HERSELF pregnant, not go and have an IVF procedure

[MercutioATC]

12. You'd have no problem with a doctor removing a lung for no medical reason?

It's her body. It's her choice...

...until it fails to meet the standards of responsible medical practice.

[NashVegas]

21. It's Not What the Doc Tells Her To Do: It's What the Doctor Does

The doctor in this case could have said, and been within ethical bounds, "you've already got more children than you can adequately care for, let alone as a single parent, and I won't help you put 8 more kids at risk of neglect and abuse. I can refer you to some other fertility experts if you want to try your luck elsewhere."

[Peregrine Took]

25. Good point. How could he have NOT done it if she requested it?

Is it expensive? Does public aid pay for fertility treatments?

[kestrel91316]

27. Because we are medical professionals, NOT McDonald's cashiers

serving up however many Happy Meals the customer demands.

You can't march in here and demand a declaw for your cat. We'll assess the situation and I will apply my criteria, and if the case doesn't meet them there IS no surgery, no matter what names you call me or how red you get in the face or how much you offer to pay me or even if you threaten to sue or complain to the board(can you tell this has happened a few times?).

[bluestateguy]

6. Yeah, but they must get one hell of a tax refund every year!

With the $500 per child tax credit and all...

Then again, I think they made a poor lifestyle choice decision.

I think I may aspire to a DINK lifestyle myself. Now if I can just find a woman who wants the same thing....

[dsc]

13. actually it depends the AMT kicks in at some point and takes away some of the break

[JitterbugPerfume]

7. and chances are

those children will have some serious health problems.

[Fuzz]

9. Some freeper claimed the woman attended their church

don't know where the thread is now, but I'll post it if I run across it again.

[Fuzz]

14. Here it is

To: tophat9000

They are from My church. My pastor and the entire church prayed for them. at the fisrt service. My Pastor said , “they are having seven babies and they are not Mexicans!” He can get a way with that being from Mexico City, himself, some 51 years ago! What a Blessing from God!

9 posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:36:22 AM by tajgirvan (Prayers Please for FReeper, alpha 8-25-02 to be healed. Thank you.)


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2172477/posts

[malaise]

17. So who is expected to house and feed all these children

Are they mad?

[K Gardner]

19. Pampers, Procter&Gamble, State of California, Gerber, etc. etc

[Horse with no Name]

22. The State of California is having a difficult time paying for its own Pampers

:D

[kestrel91316]

28. They have a two-bedroom house. That should suffice, right?

Are they mad? I dunno. YOU do the math.

[frebrd]

24. I wonder if the doctor is some kind of Fundie nut. n/t