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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:10 AM
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repukes are really going after FDR
this is clearly a pukester talking point and it's clearly all about revisionist history. you all know the talking point by now: FDR turned a recession into a depression because of his policies and spending. And the real point they're trying to make is that Obama's stimulus package will create a depression just like Roosevelt's blah, blah, blah and that history is on their side. Like hell, it's on their side, lying fuckwads. Dems need to counter this revisionist history head on and call out the liars.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:19 AM
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1. Well, dems are trying to counter, but the RW owns the media
lock, stock and barrel. Finding an outlet is near impossible.
Makes me wonder why leftys haven't put more effort into garnering media.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:21 AM
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2. The depression began before FDR and the biggest industrial stimulus package ever was WW-II
Edited on Thu Jan-29-09 10:22 AM by ThomWV
Just to get things right.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:26 AM
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3. repukes are just afraid Obama will pull this off.
damn them and damn the media.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 10:36 AM
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4. and they'll do everything they can to make Obama, and therefore America, fail.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 01:45 PM
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6. they just despise Democratic Presidents.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 11:34 AM
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5. I guess that's why FDR was elected FOUR times.
Blatant attempt to rewrite history.

Typical.

Bake
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-09 01:49 PM
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7. Then it's the perfect time for a public history lesson including the Coup against FDR:
It's time for the entire public to be informed that a group of fascist robber baron elitists, including Prescott Bush, attempted to overthrow the president of the United States and how even though there is evidence of this plot, there has never been justice:

1934: The Plot Against America
DEPARTMENT No Comment
BY Scott Horton
PUBLISHED July 28, 2007

I’m back from the land of heather and thistles, not to mention wee drams and lukewarm ale, but on my way out a friend at the BBC alerted me to this, a not-to-miss program on the BBC this morning, accessible over the next several days by internet. It’s the story of the Plot Against America. I don’t mean the Philip Roth novel, nor even the Sinclair Lewis book, It Can’t Happen Here, but rather the historical events upon which these two works of fiction were based.

In November 1934, federal investigators uncovered an amazing plot involving some two dozen senior businessmen, a good many of them Wall Street financiers, to topple the government of the United States and install a fascist dictatorship. Roth’s novel is developed from several strands of this factual account; he assumed the plot is actually carried out, whereas in fact an alert FDR shut it down but stopped short of retaliatory measures against the plotters. A key element of the plot involved a retired prominent general who was to have raised a private army of 500,000 men from unemployed veterans and who blew the whistle when he learned more of what the plot entailed. The plot was heavily funded and well developed and had strong links with fascist forces abroad. A story in the New York Times and several other newspapers reported on it, and a special Congressional committee was created to conduct an investigation. The records of this committee were scrubbed and sealed away in the National Archives, where they have only recently been made available.

The Congressional committee kept the names of many of the participants under wraps and no criminal action was ever brought against them. But a few names have leaked out. And one is Prescott Bush, the grandfather of the incumbent president. Prescott Bush was of course deep into the business of the Hamburg-America Lines, and had tight relations throughout this period with the new Government that had come to power in Germany a year earlier under Chancellor Aldoph Hitler. It appears that Bush was to have formed a key liaison for the group with the new German government.

Prescott Bush, of course, went on to service as a U.S. Senator from Connecticut, and his son, George H.W. Bush emerged from World War II as a hero.

-snip

http://www.harpers.org/archive/2007/07/hbc-90000651



The Whitehouse Coup
Monday 23 July 2007



The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

Mike Thomson investigates why so little is known about this biggest ever peacetime threat to American democracy.




http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20070723.shtml
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