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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:50 PM
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Just think how Harry Reid really feels about Al Franken....
I've always had this feeling that the established Washington Democrats have never really liked the thought of an Al Franken senate seat. The vibes I've always received is they would much rather deal with the typical politician than that of a "celebrity." So imagine how ole Harry Reid feels. I bet it torques his ass so much that he, after a "lifetime career" in politics, that he now has to deal with a more popular novice.

These people are all about the limelight and now get ready for this man to come in and start stealing some of it away. Still, I bet Franken does the right thing and acts like H. Clinton and B. Obama did when they entered as rookie senators. I bet he follows the established norms of the old school and acts accordingly.

Still, I bet Sen. Reid is frosted as hell at having to deal with such a rookie.

Enjoy Harry...you've earned it.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:52 PM
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1. Can you spell projection?
cuz you sure are doing a shitload of it.
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davefromqueens Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:55 PM
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4. Please check the rules of the site
The diarist is making a point. We should respect that. No need for incivility.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 01:08 PM
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13. I don't think that telling someone you think that they're (clearly)
projecting, is against the house rules, but hey, dave, feel free to alert on my post.

cheers
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davefromqueens Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 02:17 PM
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19. that was not all you said
Your attacks on the diarist were uncivil and there was no need for it.

If you disagreed, you could have stated why in a polite and civil manner. But your comment was a personal attack.

Try to strive and make this a community better for all people.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 02:25 PM
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21. ok, new board nanny.
anything you say.

I love the smell of hypocrisy.

:rofl:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 01:31 PM
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16. fucking laughable after your Sunday night flame thread was locked, DAVE
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davefromqueens Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 02:15 PM
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18. You are breaking the rules of the site too
Your personal attacks are uncalled for. Your use of vulgarity toward another member of the site is uncalled for.

I have been registered as a Democrat for nearly 20 years. I voted for Obama, Kerry, Gore, and Clinton twice. I have volunteered for current members of Congress, been printed in a top 10 selling newspaper 48 times, and been a part of countless activities to help elect Democrats. While I'm not perfect, most of what I do works.


I'm still learning the rules of the site and familiarized myself better with them yesterday. They happen to be good rules. I am striving to make this a better community for Democrats of which I am one. Given that I am now better familiar with those rules, I can spot those who are breaking them. Please try to do better next time. Nobody is perfect.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 02:48 PM
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22. Calling you a "fuckhead" would be a violation of the rules, "fucking laughable" isn't
Please try to do better next time.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:58 PM
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7. I don't think that's necessary, Cali. nt
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:52 PM
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2. Al isn't as invested in the political culture as Barack and Hillary are.
He has a freedom that the other two do not have, and that will allow him to speak his mind during times when others are holding their tongue.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:56 PM
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5. He is who Paul Wellstone would have wanted to take his place
and I am sure Paul is smiling today.
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:59 PM
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9. But don't you think that...
Franken has an appreciation for the unwritten rules of the senate and that he has a high appreciation for standards and things like that? That's the sort of character I see in Al Franken. Yes, he is opinionated, well known and can be a fire thrower, but I also see him as a sincere, compassionate and polite person.

Heck, his one debate with Bill O'Lielly showed exactly what a gracious man he is - that is until he is poked too many times without justification.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 01:21 PM
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14. I agree. He will be polite, but honest.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:53 PM
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3. I hope that Al fills his office with styrofoam peanuts and super-glues the locks shut! n/t
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:58 PM
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8. LOL
:evilgrin:
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:57 PM
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6. ah, so Franken's victory is a defeat for the hated Harry Reid
sweet spin job. :thumbsup:
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:59 PM
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11. No, I think it is a poke in the eye to all of the established...
Washington Democrats too enshrined in system that needs some shaking up.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:59 PM
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10. I doubt if he'll act as Obama did!
Obama pretty much started running for President before he even unpacked his bags as a rookie Senator. Hillary at least served out a full term first, but I'm sure she also had her eyes set on higher office from the beginning. I predict that Franken will be hardworking, wonky, and as much like Paul Wellstone as possible. I don't think his ambitions go beyond Senator, either. I think he'll have a better voting record (as far as attendance) than Obama, also. Harry Reid will be pleased. Franken did attend Harvard on a scholarship and graduate cum laude. He's not dumb.

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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 01:05 PM
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12. Well, I don't think Franken's victory is really a blow to Harry Reid.
I mean, Franken's hardly "popular;" the dude (apparently) won by only 225 votes, and that was against a Bush-licking slimeball in a solid blue state. Plus, Franken has worked his ass off for Democrats nationwide for years, and has played nice with the nationwide Democratic party. From my (somewhat brief) conversations with Franken, I think he's likely to be a somewhat quiet, issues-oriented, principled Senator. He's liberal, but surprisingly is a listener more than a talker.

The likely appointment of Caroline Kennedy would represent more of what you're typing about, I think.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 01:23 PM
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15. This proves it--Clowns allowed in the Senate!
instead of just harrumph hiding out disguised as representatives of the people.

That must be embarrassing to a guy like Reid with no sense of humor whatsoever--just acts like a clown without knowing it.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 01:39 PM
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17. The DC establishment fears, and therefore hates, anyone that might not
buy into and play their game.

The Senate is a club for the "elite", the rabble is supposed to stay in the House where they are easily stopped.


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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 02:24 PM
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20. My guess is that Reid is delighted to have another reliably democratic vote in his caucus
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HardWorkingDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 12:42 AM
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23. Don't forget.....politicians are egocentric most times...
....
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