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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:41 AM
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I recommend the death penalty for anyone operating a motor vehicle while talking on a cell phone
Because in the past 72 hours I have had my life put in jeopardy by such persons who are totally oblivious to the universe, the safety of themselves or those around them, changing traffic lights, turn signals, the sudden appearance of off-ramps or the brake lights of those ahead of them and various and asundry other things people should pay attention to because they just had to fucking talk on the fucking phone.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:44 AM
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1. That's what
side mounted autocannons are for.

What, your car didn't come with them?
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:57 PM
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89. I'm holding out for a photon torpedo launcher behind the grille ...
:evilgrin:

Bake
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:21 PM
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98. Claymore mines are much cheaper..
And quite effective at close range..

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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:24 AM
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122. Let me know when you figure out how to avoid the backblast while in your car.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 07:22 AM
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131. They have been hung on trucks before...
And if you've never fired a rocket they have considerable backlash also, you really don't want to stand close behind a rocket launcher.

People have most of their ideas about this sort of thing from the movies and TV which almost always get it wrong, rockets and RPGs don't go "whoosh" when they take off, it's far closer to "WHAM!!".



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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 02:33 PM
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133. I've fired rockets and claymores but the backblast on a claymore is a much wider
swath than that of a rocket. At least that was the case 40 years ago.

I would love to see how they mounted claymores on a truck to avoid the backblast. Any links?

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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:18 AM
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127. I always thought cars should come equipped with paint ball guns
You get an allocation of five paint balls a year to mark bad drivers. I would use a couple to mark the wifes car! She was in my car a couple of days ago and I pull up behind her. She is talking on the cell phone and turns across two lanes of traffic. At least the light was green.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:44 AM
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2. I was rear ended in September sitting at a stop light in my little car
by a truck with a guy talking on a cell phone.. He was totally oblivious to us, almost totaled that car, with my almost 80 year old mother in the car .. fortunately no one was hurt.. but YIKES! who is teaching these people to drive
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:46 AM
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4. Was it proven in court that the other driver was talking on the phone?
How does one go about that? Subpoenaing phone records, or eyewitness reports? Something else?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:50 AM
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11. It can easily be proved by records, which can be subpoenaed.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:51 AM
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15. We did not go to court.. his insurance paid for all the repairs.. and
there were no injuries involved. He admitted fault
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:00 AM
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22. Was he charged with operating a cell phone while driving, or is that not illegal? n/t
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:08 AM
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30. I think it was reckless endangerment..
something about being non attentive, the exact name of the charge I don't remember. When he hit us, he hit us so hard that we went into the middle of the intersection.. fortunately no cars were coming at the time. Frankly I thought he should have been hit with speeding also.. but I do not believe he got nailed with that one
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:10 AM
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33. To be honest I thought we were going to have to fight for the car repairs
but his Insurance Company called and took full responsibly.. I think they were so danged relieved that we did not sue them for costs above and beyond repairs, and car rentals..
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:14 PM
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95. So was I. The guy was looking for his cell phone, it fell.
Just can't win at this game.

I think the fines should be doubled along with the jail time for infractions where a cell phone was in use.

Would not help me, but it would be a thinking start. Similar to going past construction zones.
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:46 AM
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3. Death by pressing
for those texting while driving.
Pressing involves having a heavy door placed upon the person and the door loaded with heavy weights. The person dies of asphyxiation in about 3 days. I don't really believe in the death penalty but people putting everyone at risk because of their stupid behavior really get my dander up. And yes I have seen texting while driving more than once.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:49 AM
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7. But how else can I Tweet people to let them know I'm driving?
:shrug:



Kidding, of course ... hey, maybe we should just execute anyone who uses Twitter, just to be safe.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:48 AM
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5. How about with a Bluetooth or an earbud?
They make using a hone much easier, and it's easier to concentrate on the road.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:08 PM
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93. you are still not fully concentrated on driving
ANY phone device is a distraction period.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:45 PM
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109. I don't argue that.
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el_bryanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:48 AM
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6. I don't know - that seems harsh. Maybe just 5 years in jail and never driving ever again
You know as a compromise.

But I do recommend the death penalty for tailgaters.

Bryant

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:52 AM
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16. I'm always up to a compromise
How bout 30 years hard labor with no possibility of parole at Angola State Penitentiary in Louisiana.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:12 AM
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34. Given the prevalence of the behavior, Angola would be too small.
I think you could fill all those special Halliburton camps with phone offenders if you were to do any sort of serious enforcement.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:37 PM
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118. Tailgaters....UGH!
That's why I wish we could buy cars with a tailgunner in a ball turret.

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:49 AM
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8. People who talk and drive are as dangerous as those who drive drunk.
New England Journal of Medicine reported that a couple of years back.

Those who text are even more dangerous.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:01 AM
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25. I'm wondering, though, how much more dangerous they are...
...than drivers who simply talk with their passengers.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:19 AM
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42. It's a good point, however, the phone talking does seem to be more distractive.
I used to talk on my phone in the car, but I realized it WAS more dangerous. I found that I was more likely not to notice someone moving into my lane, or such. I see drivers on their phones all the time who are driving poorly, and don't seem to be aware of that which is going on around them.

When I read the article in the New England Journal of Medicine, I decided to stop talking while driving entirely.
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kiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:42 AM
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50. The argument I've seen about this
is that a passenger in the car is aware of driving conditions--heavy traffic, road construction, weather conditions--and is less likely to distract a driver in those conditions. I think that's a reasonable statement, since I know that I'm less likely to talk to the driver when I can see that they need to concentrate more on the road in those conditions. The onus, though, is on the driver to pay attention to their main task, which is driving.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:09 AM
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62. The other passengers can scream LOOOOOK OOOUUUT!!!!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:10 AM
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63. or turn here, or turn there. ever drive with a naggin husband. NOW that is the one
that should receive capital punishment....

lordy
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:39 AM
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73. Passive vs. Active concentration, I think...
Passive vs. Active concentration.

If you're talking with someone else in the car that person (albeit sometimes merely on a subconscious level) knows you're trying to drive and will probably lighten up on the conversation if red lights are flashing in the distance or if you're attempting to navigate onto a particularly dangerous on-ramp to a busy highway.

But if you're on a cell phone, the other person may not even know you are driving and may ratchet up the complexity, or the emotional content, of the conversation without knowing you are in a very precarious situation.

Just a guess on my part.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:43 AM
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74. i had a fly in my car once. trying to wave it out, cause it was distracting me so.... well
when i looked up i saw cars stopped in front, further back from the stop sign than normal. couldnt quite stop soon enough. little scratch on her car, none on mine, but still....

my bad.

damn flies.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:04 PM
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81. Damned flies, indeed.
Damned flies, indeed. :)

In my own experience, even the most minor of mere personal annoyances appear to be magnified tenfold when I'm driving-- everything from boom-boom "music" in the car next to me at a stop light, to my sweaty legs sticking to the seat in August.

Takes me a little while to decompress from my petulant distempers when I finally do get home on those days. :P
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 04:18 PM
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112. that is funny. my new car shoots air conditioning thru the little wholes in upholstery, lol
problem solved.

past i used a tacky ole towel. hate shorts, leather seats, summer.
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kiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:44 AM
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75. Yep, I think that self-preservation is helpful in these situations.
As a passenger, I'm not about to engage in an intense conversation with the driver when we're in the middle of bumper-to-bumper traffic, or driving on slick streets.
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watrwefitinfor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:49 AM
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9. I feel your pain!
Within the span of two years, I was whammed twice from behind, while sitting quite legally stopped - once behind someone turning left, once at a stop sign at a busy street. Saw them both coming in the rear view mirror just before they hit me. Nothing I could do, no where to go. Both times it was a young girl driving a big SUV with a cell phone plastered to her ear.

Wish there was a law...

Wat



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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:49 AM
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10. Or putting on mascara, shaving, or reading the newspaper opened on the steering wheel.
I have seen all of these. Oh yeah, brushing teeth, too. In the mirror of course........
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:50 AM
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12. To date, I've only administered corporal punishment for this,
but I value your opinion highly, Chief. :evilgrin:
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:51 AM
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13. I'm with you in spirit, but am a death penalty opponent...
I also can not bring myself to advocate supporting these idiots in prison for the rest of their lives.... But I would certainly support some hard labor for a few years.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:51 AM
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14. K&R!
People need to STFU when they get behind the wheel of their car. You can talk to Boopsie and Sissie and Bud later, just fucking drive!
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:52 AM
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17. I constantly yell "GET OFF YER FUCKIN' PHONE AND DRIVE!"
Only one person noticed me so far. :) He was weaving and slowing and speeding up. He almost clipped a car and then sped up to not let a car in when the lane ended due to road work. I can almost always tell when some idiot is talking and driving. But usually it's the ones with the handheld phone with the issues.

I have no doubt it's going to come down to headsets/bluetooth for everyone some day.
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Crabby Appleton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:52 AM
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18. First they should have the shit beaten out of them
then the death penalty.
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watrwefitinfor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:53 AM
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19. My grandson's teenaged friend was in a wreck and his mother got there
before the rescue squad. He rolled his car several times, and was pinned beneath it. Didn't die, but nearly did. How, I asked, did his mother beat the rescue squad there? Did he call and tell her where he was?

No, was the reply. She was talking to him when he had the wreck. Darwinism at work...

Wat
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:13 AM
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64. Wow...that is unbelievable
I wonder if they both learned a lesson...?
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:54 AM
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20. Or eating a bowl of noodles with chopsticks
while "driving." One hand held the bowl, the other hand held the chopsticks. And the steering wheel? Apparently just another nuisance.
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Waiting For Everyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 09:55 AM
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21. Those are people who would be driving just as bad for another reason,
if it wasn't the cell phone they'd be eating or putting on their makeup, or simply not paying attention. It's called SELF-ABSORBED. I agree with you, that anybody who has to be talking on a phone constantly, as many do, is preposterously self-absorbed. It's as if they have to have somebody "holding their hand" every minute of the day.

Also irresponsible is a statement like the subject line of the OP. Ban them from driving, fine. Death penalty? Not justified for any reason.

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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:02 AM
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26. I think the OP was being hyperbolic...
At least I HOPE so... ;)
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:00 AM
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23. The same thing for anyone adjusting their car stereos and loading CD's into them...
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 10:00 AM by Dennis Donovan
...and for anyone drinkg coffee when they drive.

The drivers mentioned in your OP would be shitty drivers with or without the cellphone in their hand. ;)
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:01 AM
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24. while we're at it, let's just kill anyone who brings their kids to Olive Garden
and lets them scream and misbehave while I'm noshing my endless breadsticks.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:07 AM
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27. Let's just kill everyone who annoys us. Imagine what a better world it would be!
Good thing none of us ever does anything that annoys anyone. But everyone else? Kill them. Yeah. I see your point. Killing people for such trivialities will send a strong message to people that we won't tolerate their behavior. It will be a...a...UTOPIA!

Now, who gets to decide? I'd like to be on the panel deciding who is the most annoying!

.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:09 AM
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32. yeah, along with the unruly kids at Olive Garden thing,
we should definitely put kids who wear their pants halfway down their crack with their underwear hanging out. BLAM! Another problem solved.

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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:14 AM
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36. And clearly, people who defend Windows Vista...BLAM BLAM.
Ooooh, this is fun.

.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:16 AM
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39. When does screaming kids in the Olive Garden put anyone's life in danger?
The OP was talking about idiots who are yapping while driving and don't pay attention to what they're doing. It's not simply annoying, it's dangerous.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:30 AM
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44. I could choke on my breadsticks, or get high blood pressure or something.
I say kill 'em. BLAM!
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:46 AM
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52. Or you might sprain your wrist
... while slapping the noisy kids' grandma.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:54 AM
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53. could happen I suppose,
but I'm not a fan of corporal punishment, other than the death penalty.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:19 PM
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97. the parents of those brats
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 01:21 PM by JitterbugPerfume
are putting their OWN life in danger because one of these days some old codger ( like me) will go ballistic on them and them plead insanity
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:20 AM
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43. i was just talking this anti child on du and pointed out that my kids and i find as many or more
obnoxious, rude or misbehaving adults out and about than we do kids.... so lets shoot them too.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:31 AM
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45. I'm right there with you.
BLAM! Another problem solved.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:32 AM
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46. Spoken like someone who is on the cellphone constantly while driving.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:35 AM
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47. ...to Olive Garden.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:57 AM
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54. what is....
the reference to olive garden in these posts. i missed whatever happened on du, ... but i know there was a to do about olive garden. i hate being left out
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:00 AM
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55. it was an old Lounge phony flame war
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:02 AM
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57. ah, well see
i dont go into lounge, why i missed it.

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:03 AM
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58. until now.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:07 AM
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28. I was almost killed by a cellphone driver
It was the day before Thanksgiving 2000. I was stopped at a red light, but a woman in an Expedition was not (I had a small Escort at the time). She rear-ended me to the point where my car did not have a trunk. (the trunk was hanging on by strings until the car was repaired).

The bitch wouldn't even stay when I called the cops to report the accident. She was bitching because she was late to get her son from school. She didn't even get off the phone to apologize for destroying my car and giving me whiplash that does not go away 8 years later.

A week later NY's cellphone law went into effect.
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wartrace Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:57 PM
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88. She hit & ran?
I thought you had to stay at an accident until the police arrived? Oh, why is it idiots who do chat on the phone constantly while driving ALWAYS drive huge vehicles that will kill other drivers in normal cars. Next time she does that I hope its at a railroad crossing into the train.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:07 AM
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29. I've often wonder what people did in their cars before cell phones.
Did they sit in traffic wondering whom they could be talking to? Were they counting the minutes till they got to a phone to make that all-important phone call?

I got my driver's license in 1969, and I don't ever recall wanting to talk to someone on the phone while I was driving...
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:08 AM
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31. There's nothing that warms my heart more than anti cell phone threads on DU
and no, I'm not being sarcastic, I honestly, truly LOVE these threads. I even brought my own soapbox and everything!

Rules For When GloriaSmith Becomes Leader of the Universe:

1. When talking on a cell phone for longer than 60 seconds while driving, all four tires of the vehicle will instantly go flat.

2. Talking on a cell phone while mindlessly walking through a grocery store (or worse, stopping in the middle of the aisle so that others can't walk past you) means your grocery bill will be marked up 5x the original amount UNLESS someone approaches you, grabs the phone from your ear, and throws it to the other end of the store.

3. Restaurants. Go ahead and answer it. Just be prepared to pay the bill for EVERYONE around you. Be careful though, I have great taste in wine.

4. Movies are similar to restaurants. If you answer it, the entire theater will receive a free ticket and you will receive the bill.

5. Keeping the ridiculous ear piece on your head while not using your phone can get you ticketed by the fashion police so be careful. I'm not saying you can't wear it, but come on. It looks ridiculous.

:D
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:14 AM
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37. I would add for #2 a penalty similar to #3
They have to pay the grocery bill for everyone they've blocked and cut off in the store. If their yapping holds up the checkout, all the people behind them get a $150 shopping spree on their dime.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:01 AM
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56. oh oh oh and people that have the audacity to use cash, count it out AFTER the total given
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 11:02 AM by seabeyond
and actually using coin.... wait, and people that use checks too. that is a huge mess now a days to use checks, all that writing out and id checks ect...

oh and if they dare to pick up a product without a price on it and actually expect all to wait for a price check....
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kiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:13 AM
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65. After seeing your posts here comparing this
issue to people who complain about screaming children or those who use cash, I've got to ask why you think this issue is so trivial? Several people here have posted about getting into accidents, not to mention near hits, involving people who choose to talk on their phones rather than drive--not really the same thing.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:20 AM
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66. i am anti cell phone user as a whole. rarely use it. carry it in case emergency for kids
while they are at school. i dont like them

because people get distracted in all manners. cell phone is just one more way. many drive fine with them, a few dont. but then i think they probably arent good drivers anyway. many drivers without cell phone get in accidents. has been going on since cars came on the market.

because i see this on the same scale as so many other threads on du

so much demanding that all follow these narrow guide lines how we are all suppose to live

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kiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:27 AM
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69. Agreed that flamewars fire up over the strangest things here--
I still don't understand the cornflake breaded chicken thing--but I guess I see the phone/drive thing as a more valid concern. Then again, we all have things that push our buttons, and things that don't--makes for a more interesting board.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:29 PM
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85. If
the way someone lives jeopardizes my life or my loved one's lives I'm all for guidelines. There is no doubt in my narrow mind that if the people I encountered on the road the last couple of days were not talking on the phone I would have more pad on my brakes right now and my blood pressure would be lower.
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kiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:29 PM
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105. Agreed. Like I said, this one pushes all my buttons,
but apparently other people's buttons are in different locations.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:28 AM
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70. On cell phone talking in the grocery store...
Just yesterday there was a woman screaming at the bread display in my local store-- or so it appeared.
I glared at her.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:27 PM
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102. oh Gormy!
I hate that! WHY do people find it necessary to talk on the damn phone constantly in public spaces? I do not CARE about their personal life , or their opinions

I am warning the world --I am going to go postal one'a these days on those idiots
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:22 PM
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84. Preach it, sistah!
:D
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:00 AM
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125. You just locked up my vote
Now when is the Leader of the Universe election? :)



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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:12 AM
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35. Salt
For them to put on the cell phone when they are made to EAT IT.
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GentryDixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:14 AM
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38. It is common in this state to see young girls
putting on their makeup while driving. We once saw was my husband's Secretary in our rear view mirror putting on her pantyhose while coming ever closer to us at a red light. :dunce:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:16 AM
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40. Bad drivers will always be bad drivers, no matter what privilege you take away.
The problem is emphasis. Some people can drive and multi-task (eating, talking, stuff like that) and still put their focus on driving. Others don't give a damn about the driving part. They focus entirely on the phone. If they weren't on the phone, they'd focus on their breakfast, their tie, the radio, or something they forgot in the back seat.

The ones I'd love to see the death penalty for are the street racers. Anyone going more then ten over the flow of traffic (not necessarily the speed limit) should be arrested and jailed, at least, and anyone racing or zig-zagging through traffic--including motorcycles--should be put out of existence before they take someone else out with them. There's a case where it's unfair to others to wait on Darwin.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:18 AM
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41. Death penalty for talking while driving, death penalty for talking during a
movie, what's next? Death penalty for having a crying baby in a restaurant? Death penalty for smoking cigarettes around anyone? Death penalty for barking dogs? Yes, people who talk on a cell phone or to a passenger are distracted and dangerous, but I'm tired of all of this Talibanesque "death penalty" crap. Makes me feel like I'm at FreeRepublic and in need of a shower!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:36 AM
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48. death penalty for putting cat pictures in your sig line
don't forget that one.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:38 PM
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119. BLAM!
:rofl:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:40 AM
Response to Reply #41
49. screw the barking dogs, death penalty for people with cats that let them out and they sit on roof
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 10:41 AM by seabeyond
taunting my dog, in his yard at 3 in the morning waking me up....

man, that pisses me off....

wink

on edit: ... ba hahahaha. lol. really, i didnt even notice your cat pictures until i read the post above me. lol

i still stand by my post
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 10:46 AM
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51. Lighten up, Francis
It is hyperbole.

No one is really calling for people to die for this. If you really think these folks are serious about the death penalty -- perhaps you need to update your sarcasm\hyperbole meter.

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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:29 PM
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104. yep
all of the above
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:04 AM
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59. Finally, a sensible post on this board. nt
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:06 AM
Response to Reply #59
60. bah hahahha....
you're funny
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:07 AM
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61. Good Thing You're Not Writing the Laws, Then
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:23 AM
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67. I hate seeing people talking on the phone while they are driving.
:nuke:
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:27 AM
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68. What about those people who have their stereos so loud you have to text?
This guy had his system up so loud the other day while I was on my way to the Olive Garden that I couldn't even hear the girl tell me if my reservation was in the child-free smoking section.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:29 AM
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71. Really? I pull it off and I have a flawless record. (Talking, not texting of course)
Turn signals, speed limit, and all. Call it ability to multitask.

Then again usually the phone is on speaker and resting on my dashboard.
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:35 AM
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72. That's much more responsible...
I think there are some people who are fine with it, but it's too easy for some to be creating a hazard just by holding the phone and driving. I'm sure there are plenty of ways to be just as dangerous (applying makeup, etc.). It's my experience that those without handsfree are the ones weaving and not signaling and such.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:45 AM
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76. bought a new car with gps and all kinds of stuff. dial cell in car, look thru address book
a little computer on dashboard.... talk about distracting.

coolest car
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:49 AM
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78. mine's cool too but you have to have the brake on for many of the
features to work...to keep you from being too distracted to drive. :)
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:51 AM
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80. took it on our trip for christmas. they wont let you go into the sports cause it may distract. lol
i laughed.

but then it also focuses and narrows the field in complex frreeway changes and routes in big cities. love it. but hard to look at that as i am watching all the traffics ect... while driving those routes

yes, i doesnt allow some stuff and has voice directing, which is cool, but i can see distraction for the stupid....
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:50 AM
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79. Wow, I thought I'd get flamed for daring to pull things off intelligently.
I have seen idiots that need to hang up the phone and drive though...
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:46 AM
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77. True story -
Last year I needed to drive to work one day instead of bicycling. I had a woman in front of me on the cell phone and witnessed her veering into the bike lane twice, once nearly striking the curb. Made me think long and hard about the bike.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:12 PM
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82. I saw a guy the other day TEXTING on his Blackberry with both hands awhile driving, not sitting at
the light, moving down the street.

Some people have NO sense.

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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:13 PM
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83. Suspension of driver's license for one year for first offense
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 12:15 PM by Better Believe It
Suspension of driver's license for five years for second offense and lifetime ban for third offense should eliminate the problem provided we have strict enforcement.

The cell phone drivers are worse and more dangerous on the road than many who are driving under the influence.

And why do the cell phone drivers look at their phones when they talk? Do you think they can see the person they are talking at?
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:21 PM
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99. we watched as a female SHERIFF slammed into the back of the car next to us.
She was on the phone (we could HEAR her yelling into the phone before she hit), slammed into the car in front, which was slammed into the first car at the light, because she was going so fast.

I felt sorry enough for the guy in the middle that we stayed and gave our names as witnesses to the police that came to write up the accident.

Unbelievable how irresponsible and selfish cell phone users are. She was pissed off because she couldn't leave the scene while the cops were taking information.
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:33 PM
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86. Death penalty might be a little harsh
but I agree with your sentiment! ;)
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:36 PM
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87. Death penalty for tailgaters and people who whistle on elevators.
This list could get really long.

Throw in a certain football team while we're at it.
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wartrace Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:59 PM
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90. Whistling? How about people who pass gas on elevators? n/t
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:13 PM
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94. Uh Oh
I may have broken that rule last week at our library. :blush:
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:06 PM
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91. I saw an absolute genious this morning texting while driving
with a red bumper sticker that read "Comrade Obama" complete with hammer and sickle
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:34 AM
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123. That's g-e-n-i-u-s, Comrade Genious.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:07 PM
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92. Death Penalty for LEFT LANE slowpokes!!!1
And people that leave their shopping carts behind someone else's car!

Oooh, when I come to power, I'm going to have a stern word with quite a few people.

:hide:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 04:32 PM
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114. with you on slow poke left lane.... and the assholes that dont use cruise and fluctuate in speed
interrupting my own flow at cruise control, lol.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:15 PM
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96.  texting while driving
and talking on a cell phone is going to make a serial killer out of this old woman just as soon as I get the energy LOL
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:22 PM
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100. I don't know about death...
But I could get behind a good solid beating. With a banana.
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BuelahWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:10 PM
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108. I would be happy with shoving the phone into a certain orifice on the offender's person
Sideways... :evilgrin:
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:23 PM
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101. Thank goodness its not your decision then.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:29 PM
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103. If I'm the first car in line waiting for a red light to change to green ...



... I'm usually careful to look both ways before I hit the gas. All too often I see some idiot sail right through the
intersection long after the light would have turned red in their direction. Just as if they are in a world all thier own.
And it really pisses me off when I see little kids in the car. It only takes a second to snuff out a life.


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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:30 PM
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106. Nah, just for murderers.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:54 PM
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107. K&R!
Hyperbole is cleansing. I'm not sure I could personally throw the switch, but anyone who talks and drives at the same time is a loser who has no life. NOTHING is more important than safety (everyone else's as much as your own) when a person is driving. If you must take a call, pull over. :kick:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:52 PM
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110. It's against the law here.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 03:17 PM
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111. Malon Labe
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 03:18 PM by aikoaiko
;)
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 04:29 PM
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113. It's the height of personal overestimation and selfishness
How many of those conversations are NECESSARY? First off, the only conversations that should be had while driving (unless, perhaps, at speed on an empty, straight freeway like the 5) are NECESSARY ones. You're piloting a deadly projectile. You're in rapidly changing situations that demand extreme concentration.

I can't express how many near-death experiences I've had here in L.A. and how many galling near-scrapes of this sort: some ditz in an FUV (the really BIG kind, like the Chevy Suburb or the Lincoln Memorial) who's making a 9-point turn in a parking lot while gossiping about something trivial. The sheer privilege these people exude is literally deafening.

I'm in a business where I should, by definition and stereotype, be talking on the car phone, and I can at least muster a scrap of decency and responsibility to pull over if necessary.

Hang 'em high. Put 'em in a sealed room with their cell phone and have some friend call 'em and say: "Just WAIT 'til I tell you what he/she said..." and then cut the signal. Allow them to call back and just when the connection is made, hit the interference.

Dante's 10th ring of hell...
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ACTION BASTARD Donating Member (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 04:36 PM
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115. I once thought of firebombing the guy in the ice cream truck for putting spinkles
on my vanilla swirl cone. God help him if he does it again.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 05:03 PM
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116. lol lol lol, ..... ya. n/t
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 05:59 PM
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117. Yo Jarhead
what if a cell talker behind a wheel kills your wife or your mother or another of your loved ones because he/she was distracted by a caller who offered nothing but "what are you doing?" Sprinkle this!
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 11:39 PM
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120. I recommend we mandate more and better driver's education, and the death penatly for hyperbole (nm)
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:20 AM
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121. how do you feel about texting while driving?
pissed the hell out of me when i saw some asshole doing that while she was driving her pig suv in republicon country. and she certainly was old enough to know better--she was at least my age and i have a twenty year old daughter (who promises she won't text while driving--and she better not!)
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:38 AM
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124. Death penalty for anyone operating a motor vehicle while taking on a cell phone would
certainly have an instantaneous and major positive impact on our overpopulation problem.

Great idea, BOSSHOG.

But, can I please have an exemption? I'll give you a call tomorrow.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:10 AM
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126. I was thinking the same thing today when I was riding my bike.
Someone, driving and talking on their cell phone, went through a stop sign and nearly hit me.

I was thinking, "drivers like that should get the death penalty, and email spammers should be beheaded too." Then I thought "who's next? Where will it end?" So, I decided maybe the death penalty is not such a good idea.

:)
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 05:08 AM
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129. It's a great idea, just poorly implemented
George Carlin had the right idea.

Here are some more people that oughta be strapped into chairs and beaten with hammers.

Here are some more musical vermin whose mothers we wished had medical plans that included abortion.

Here are some more people who deserve an inoperable tumor at the base of their spines.

Here's another pack of jackoffs who oughta be strangled in front of their children.

Here are some more people with missing chromosomes who oughta be thrown screaming from a helicopter.

Here are some more men who oughta be strapped to a gurney and castrated with fishing knifes.

RIP George. We loved ya while it lasted.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 06:31 AM
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130. A little bit of George Carlin lives on within each of us.
The bit that's in me is always trying to get out. :D

Welcome to DU! :hi:




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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 04:55 AM
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128. A little strong. I feel simply amputating their hands and feet would suffice.
They can still live but will never have the opportunity to repeat the crime.
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 08:00 AM
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132. Cigarette in one hand, cell phone in the other
Steering with the hand holding the cigarette. Selfish jackasses don't care who they kill.
I got a Ford with a Sync system that is totally hands free and I still don't feel comfortable talking to someone whle driving, especially in town. I usually just wait until I'm at my destination to return a call. To my knowledge, I've never missed a call that was so critical it couldn't wait a few minutes.
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