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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:12 PM
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Gore: ‘If The Crib’s On Fire, You Don’t Speculate That The Baby Is Flame-Retardant’
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/21/gore-barton/

Gore: ‘If The Crib’s On Fire, You Don’t Speculate That The Baby Is Flame-Retardant’

At the House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing today, leading climate skeptic Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) tried to cast doubt on the science behind global warming, claiming “even the mainstream media are now noticing that global warming science is uneven and evolving.”

Vice President Al Gore rebuffed Barton’s attempts to interrupt his testimony and quickly debunked the claim that the recent warming trend is ordinary. Gore noted, “20 of the 21 hottest years ever measured in the human record have been in the last 25 years. The 10 hottest have been since 1990. The hottest was 2005. The hottest in the United States of America was 2006. The hottest winter ever measured globally was December of last year.”

Mocking global warming deniers, Gore said, “The planet has a fever. If your baby has a fever, you go to the doctor. If the doctor says you need to intervene here, you don’t say, well I read a science fiction novel that tells me it’s not a problem. If the crib’s on fire, you don’t speculate that the baby is flame-retardant. You take action. The planet has a fever.” Watch the highlights at link:

Watch Gore’s opening statement, courtesy of PoliticsTV, at Gore’s blog.

Transcript:

BARTON: The first thing I want to address is the science of global warming as portrayed in the Vice President’s film An Inconvenient Truth. This is something I believe we absolutely have to get right. Even the main stream media, Mr. Vice President, are now noticing that global warming science is uneven and evolving. we need to be deliberative and careful when we talk about so-called facts.

<…>

BARTON: But it remains a fact, and it’s clear from the data that we do have, that for hundreds of thousands of years, CO2 levels have followed temperature rise, not the other way around, as you preach.

<…>

GORE: That’s exactly what the models predict. That’s exactly what the science says –

BARTON: Mr. Vice President, my time is up. What’s your answer on the CAFE increase?

GORE: If I could complete my response, congressman.

BARTON: I hope that there’s an answer in there somewhere.

GORE: May I?

BARTON: I’d like to have an answer to the straight question.

GORE: Well you asked quite a few of them. And I’m doing my best. On CO2 and temperature, when CO2 goes up, temperature goes up. That is why 20 of the 21 hottest years ever measured in the human record have been in the last 25 years.

The 10 hottest have been since 1990.

The hottest was 2005.

The hottest in the United States of America was 2006.

The hottest winter ever measured globally was December of last year, and January and February of this year — last month. This is going on right now.

The planet has a fever. If your baby has a fever, you go to the doctor. If the doctor says you need to intervene here, you don’t say, well I read a science fiction novel that tells me it’s not a problem. If the crib’s on fire, you don’t speculate that the baby is flame-retardant. You take action. The planet has a fever.

<…>

BARTON: The temperature goes up before CO2 goes up.

GORE: Sometimes, that has been true in the past. The opposite has also been true in the past. But what is happening now is that we, because of human action, are overwhelming all of those cycles.

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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:16 PM
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1. OH, if only he had been president these last six years!!!!
Instead of the rubbish we got! :banghead:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:21 PM
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3. I don't know, if Gore HAD been president, things wouldn't ALL be good.
We wouldn't have DU, probably. :shrug:

Okay, yeah, I'd take President Gore and the resultant peace, prosperity, and sanity over DU.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:43 PM
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18. Well, there would have been the DemocraticAboveground instead
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:55 PM
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20. And no Iraq invasion and occupation.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:26 PM
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26. we would have had two democratic presidents Gore and Kerry
can you imagine that, I can the world would never be like this, that is for damn sure! stupid bush and his neocons friends, if there is any justice they will be going down.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:22 AM
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31. I think the same thing every day. Every goddamn day!
:argh:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:17 PM
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2. I loves me some Al Gore
Look @ what was stolen from us in 2000.

He is million times any of the shits who worked so hard to steal 2000.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:22 PM
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4. but do you remove the baby before putting out the fire or after?
Hmmmm :wtf:
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:25 PM
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6. careful
you sound like you want to relocate to mars!
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:26 PM
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8. it depends...
if the baby is Jack-Jack (from the movie The Incredibles), the crib's probably on fire because of the kid so you might as well put 'em both out at once. ;-)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:23 PM
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5. Reminds me of listening to undergrads trying to correct a professor
on a topic they once heard a rumor on.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:25 PM
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7. Is it too much to ask
that these people actually sit down and read the IPCC report or just even the summary. While it's fun to see all these celebrities show up on capital hill every now and then, the people in congress could answer all their questions in about 1-6 hours of reading.
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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:31 PM
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9. imagine if you can - Hastart reading IPCC's report and actually understanding it!
do damn dumb to fathom what GHG stands for let alone what is causing it.
IPCC isn't in Exxonmobil's "to read" list!lol.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:14 PM
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21. They do write an summary
that's written for policy makers. I believe a 12 year old would not have trouble reading the summary. If these people aren't intelligent to read a summary of a report they shouldn't be in politics and should resign. Why are Republicans asking questions on capital hill that were clearly and intelligently answered some 15-20 years ago? It's an embarrassment. These lazy ill informed Republicans are a total disgrace to their own party.
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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 01:21 PM
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22. yes and it's a great one too but Conservatives are only concerned about $$
and the market not realizing nor fathoming that there's money in green alternative energy as well.
The world will pass them by and make them history - we will see to it!
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:23 PM
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24. there's even a website with pretty graphs and pictures!
So they needn't strain themselves reading even the Executive Summary document.

http://maps.grida.no/go/searchFree/q/climate+change
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:34 PM
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10. Breaking Fox News: Gore to Set Fire to Retarded Babies.
Why does Gore hate babies? John Gibson reports...
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:36 PM
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12. LMFAO
:rofl:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:37 PM
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14. ...
:rofl: :spray: Ain't that the truth!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:39 PM
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16. Thank goodness I just swallowed my tea before I read this!!! ROFLMAO!!! eom
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:35 PM
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11. That depends on how much you love the baby
Republicans have absolutely no love for babies after they are born.

If only Nader had stayed out of Florida or New Hampshire, if only President Carter had sent 18 helicopters into Iran instead of 9, if only President Truman had pushed harder for universal health care earlier...if only Eisenhower had pre-empted the buildup of the military industrial complex, if only we had a time machine....

Damn. Well Gore can still be president, if he wants it.
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Shoelace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:36 PM
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13. K&R Great post as per usual babylonsister!!!
keep this up front and center! Thanks - you rock........:bounce: :toast: :kick:
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:37 PM
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15.  Mr. Gore you know they would let that baby burn
As long as it was not politically detrimental to do so. They will find excuse after excuse to not have to face reality because it then binds them morally to actually doing something about it. Great analogy, BTW.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:32 PM
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28. first they would say that the fire was merely a "natural temperature fluctuation"
... so that therefore there was no reason to rescue the baby at all. (We'll assume that they'd already reluctantly agreed that the fire did in fact exist, and was not a figment of anyone's imagination.)

Then they would admit that the fire WAS anthropogenic, and in the same breath, claim that in any case there was no proof that fires harm babies. That, in fact, babies are shown to do well in homes where there is a heat source, so it might even be a good thing.

Then they would say that even if the fire were endangering the baby, nobody had any ideas about what could be done in this kind of situation.

And after they had been handed a fire extinguisher, they would claim that it was "too expensive" to use such a device, and that even snatching the child from the burning crib was bound to create such a disruption that it would be far better to let the fire proceed without attempting any rescues.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:49 PM
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29. yes, then they would claim it was God's will
And being the religious people they are they certainly wouldn't want to stand in the way of God's will. Sometimes you simply have to shake your head.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:39 PM
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17. Barton must have the brain of a fruitfly!
I think he would work well for one of those fruitfly experiments anyway in proving how people without brains to correct their behavior and work together are doomed into not seeing their fate coming down on them!
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 12:47 PM
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19. self delete
Edited on Wed Mar-21-07 12:48 PM by calipendence
DU DB brainfart had me post twice by mistake.
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StefanX Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:18 PM
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23. That's exactly the way to talk back to these idiots
A nice simple metaphor showing what suicidal crackpots they are.

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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:26 PM
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25. Gore/Obama 2008!
Please, God, let it happen!

If not,


Obama/Clark
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:28 PM
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27. barton and inHOfe don't
care if the baby is on fire as long as they can perpetuate corporatewhore bushit.

I can't wait to see Gore on April 26, 2007 in Clinton, NY..for his slide show!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-21-07 07:59 PM
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30. QotD. Gore should be given an honorary DUzy.
Edited on Wed Mar-21-07 08:00 PM by BlooInBloo
EDIT: Added editorial in the subject.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:23 AM
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32. problem is, some sincerely believe God will shield the baby
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:26 AM
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33. what exactly is Barton campaigning for?
I mean, I know hes up every two years, but its like he is grandstanding and pandering to the extreme RW for some reason...
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