House Judiciary Committee votes on subpoenas

[Marie26]

Conyer's committee decides this morning whether to issue subpoenas to Miers & Rove. The hearing has just started.

Update: MOTION PASSED! Rep. Conyers can now subpoena Miers and Rove.

Webcast here: http://boss.streamos.com/real-live/judiciary/17223/56_judiciary-coj_2141_070212.ram

[habitual]

1. thanx.! n/t

[Cameron27]

2. K&R

[Sir Jeffrey]

3. Here dey come!!!

[Cameron27]

4. Doesn't seem to be any urgency...

show a decent respect to the President. (HA, good one)

[Princess Turandot]

5. Republican spin..

Subpoenas premature...need to go thru 3,000 documents first before demanding subpoenas..
White House made reasonable offer..

[Solly Mack]

6. Recommend the thread, please (pretty, pretty, pretty please)

with a cherry on top

:)

[Solly Mack]

8. LMAO - "please don't subpoena without compelling reason

....and not political amusement grounds"



"Still negotiating on the terms (got the witnesses) to give testimony"

[Solly Mack]

12. Conyers speaking

this is not a sideshow or any other reason other than the following

giving a list of reasons why he wants subpoenas under oath...otherwise they could talk in a pub and would not accomplish getting the truth

[Solly Mack]

17. Conyers : "hold these subpoenas in advance of needing them"

Annoying person that keeps calling it a witch hunt asking for more assurance that it isn't a witch hunt

Conyers telling him he won't do anything that would demean the committee...and what they are voting on today is merely a back-up

[Solly Mack]

23. Talking point against subpoenas

and calling it all a partisan witch hunt

Gee...let's not "insult" the executive branch until giving them a chance to tell their story

[Solly Mack]

28. Conyers is patiently explaining to the nitwit that

they can't get to the interviews without the subpoenas if Bush expects Rove/HM to tesitfy not under oath, behind closed doors and without a transcript

and the nitwit keeps wanting to assert that Bush will allow the interviews though...

as if Conyers' point was not registering with him

[Solly Mack]

36. meeting adjourned?????

did I miss something????

got coffee

[Princess Turandot]

37. see below!

[Solly Mack]

41. Did...Thanks!!!!!

Excellent

[wicket]

45. Here's another!

K & R

:kick:

[Cameron27]

7. Some confusion about purpose of the vote

[Marie26]

9. I truly have no idea

I'm posting this in the hopes that some DU'ers will be able to follow what happens. This is the description of the hearing:

Subcommittee Meeting to Consider Subpoena Authorization

Consideration of authorizing the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee to issue subpoenas to the following individuals to secure testimony at a hearing, and to obtain documents from these individuals, as well as unredacted documents from the Department of Justice and the White House, pursuant to the Committee’s investigation concerning the recent termination of United States Attorneys and related subjects.

[Cameron27]

10. Conyers

[Marie26]

11. Conyers up now... nt

[Princess Turandot]

13. Conyers takes floor

'This is being done for the following:

We had a deadline that went unresponded to for 5 days.
We were offered a conversation with no oath or records..but I could do that at the local pub if I wanted that.
This is not going to operate under whim..
Belief abt executive privilege preventing us from calling witnesses is not accurate in my belief.

Authorize the subpoenas today and trust me that I will not issue them if I do in a reckless manner"

[The Count]

14. What are you guys watching? I get NADA on c-Span!

[Cameron27]

15. Use Marie's link

[Princess Turandot]

16. here:

http://judiciary.house.gov/

scroll to the end of the box on the upper left to see link.

[Marie26]

18. If anyone's watching, please live-blog

for those who can't listen to the hearing.

[H2O Man]

20. That would be

most appreciated!

[Tuesday_Morning]

24. this might help

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3173879

[Sir Jeffrey]

26. Basically...

Reps are saying "the issuance of subpoenas is premature" and "we need time to go through the documents" and "Clinton did it too".

Conyers is saying "We need to vote unanimously on this because we need to find out what happened" and "We won't issue subpoenas unless we have to" and, my favorite, "we can have a 'conversation' at the local bar. what we need is people talking under oath with a transcript"

on edit typed "conservation" instead of "conversation". it is early

[Cameron27]

19. Clinton being dragged in of course

[Marie26]

21. Republicans repeat "partisan witch-hunt" talking point...

[Cameron27]

22. "Partisan witchhunt.."

[Marie26]

27. Conyers: We can't interview people in the hallway,

or the dining room... we've been offered this non-relevant position by the President. We will persue these hearings VIGOUROUSLY, and subpoena needed witnesses.

[Princess Turandot]

25. 'White House can raise exec privilege'..Michigan repub..

wants documents read and the individuals be spoken to (even if off the record) first before subpoenas considered.
"political witch hunt"
"Even Lam herself said she had no evidence that Cunningham case affected her termination."

[Princess Turandot]

29. 'Bush said he would make individuals available'

another Repub up.Cannon..believes they have the right to request subpoenas but but but..

"Lam said her departure would not affect corruption cases but those keep coming up.."

[Sir Jeffrey]

30. Did that asshole Republican...

just say that putting someone under oath in a congressional investigation wasn't important??

[Princess Turandot]

31. MOTION PASSED!

authorizes Conyers to issue subpoenas when he feels they are necessary.

[Epiphany4z]

33. it passed

only 2 no's.

[Solly Mack]

38. Great! Thanks!!!

[Tuesday_Morning]

32. ayes have it!

[Iwasthere]

40. That was quick

Strange... was looking iffy imo... then sudenly "VIOLLA! The I s have it" YEEHAW! It is the start of the end of this crooked administration... now back to Gore

[Sir Jeffrey]

34. Well that was quick!!

W00t

[No DUplicitous DUpe]

39. Yeah, that was quick.

And good!

[Cameron27]

35. The ayes have it..

Was that Kennedy?

[mmonk]

42. Very important. Subpoena power is one of the reasons

they were voted in control.

[IWantAChange]

43. "300" like Conyers in Washington and this Would be the greatest country on Earth

in each and every respect possible

[bdamomma]

44. I wish we could hire a blimp or plane

saying WHAT ARE YOU HIDING????????????

this corrupt regime is afraid of telling the truth, and those stupid rethugs keep on saying "witch hunt", I would reply back to them if you have nothing to hide why not tell the truth. Show Conyers our support and call him.

http://judiciary.house.gov/fullcommittee.aspx

[Marie26]

46. Conyers is probably issuing the subpoenas right now

THANK YOU, Rep. Conyers, for not backing down and not giving up.

[TahitiNut]

47. Important: Approved by voice vote. No roll call vote was demanded.

If the GOPhers were confident that opposing subpoenas was a political advantage, even with their own core constituencies but particularly in challenging Dem seats, then they'd demand a roll call vote. They didn't. Looks like the political winds are at the backs of the Democrats on this one. (Good thing - since they haven't shown much ability to tack into the wind like the close-hauled GOP.)

[wicket]

48. Nice catch TN!!!!

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