I believe one can be a liberal and a capitalist

[Stinky The Clown]

I do NOT believe one can be a liberal and anti-union.

[blondeatlast]

1. AGREED. nt

[YOY]

2. I think the definition of capitalism has been highjacked by corporatists and the far right.

and that you are dead on.

Funny how Reaganomics are seen as Capitalism by the Republicans lost in stupidland.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

3. I like the concept of "social capitalism"

That is, it is okay to try to make money for yourself. However, in doing that, you have to be aware of others, and your right to earn money in a business is not superior to the interests of the consumers.

[YOY]

8. Works for Scandinavia...

I've heard criticism that it couldn't work in a "diverse society" by conservatives...a poorly covered up bigoted remark.

[Dora]

4. I agree. nt

[mrreowwr_kittty]

5. Agree 100%. nt

[Greyhound]

6. Don't know if he calls himself liberal, but Jim Sinegal has the right idea.

Founder and CEO of COSTCO, and pays himself only $350,000 per year. He pays his employees far above "market rate" and enjoys very low turn-over and superior loyalty.

But of course this couldn't possibly work.:sarcasm:
:kick: & R

[ipfilter]

7. My union job was the first step in my converstion

to a lefty pinko commie. Eight years of Bush completed my transformation to the dark side.

[stray cat]

9. If you don't agree with anything and everything a union does but believe in unions

is that anti-union?

[Stinky The Clown]

13. Of course not

[99th_Monkey]

10. Economic democracy is the way to go

http://www.ied.info/

worker-ownership rocks hard!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondrag%C3%B3n_Cooperative_Corporation

[hfojvt]

11. I don't like the Samuel Gompers model

Seems like trickle-down to me. In that model, the Unions get good pay and good benefits for union members. How does that benefit the rest of the non-union working class? It doesn't. Not directly. The argument might be made that other employers then have to compete with the union jobs, but that seems like a trickle-down argument to me. Direct benefits to a relatively wealthy, privileged group that will trickle down to the rest of us. In theory.

I prefer a union that would benefit all workers. Something more like an AAWP.

But not only that, but more of a non-materialist outlook. The Gompers model also seems to accept the American dream - the race to get as much stuff as you can.

[ProfessorGAC]

12. OK By Me

Look, i've been here for well over 7 years saying the ALL that matters is the middle class.

No middle class, no growth. No middle class, no profits. No middle class, NO RICH PEOPLE!

Unions helped to expand the size and strength of the middle class more than any other single factor in the history of our country.
GAC