If we bail out the auto makers, there needs to be a change

[Kingofalldems]

in the way cars are sold. No more car salesman bs e.g. 'we forgot to tell you about the handling charge' or sticker prices inflated for backup profit. The whole car buying experience should be a pleasant experience and people should drive off the lot knowing they haven't gotten the shaft.

[JVS]

1. I can't believe we're going to waste tax-dollars propping up such a corrupt and fucked up system.

It's like if we were sending economic development aide straight to hell.

[Rabrrrrrr]

2. I like that idea! No more haggling - make it like every other retail area,

in which stores compete to have the lowest prices, not compete to see who can fuck over the customer the most.

And let cars be sold by anyone - if, for whatever reason, Best Buy wants to start selling cars, let 'em. Or WalMart or KMart or Target or Macys or LL Bean.

[hendo]

3. Compete for the lowest price?

You mean like the gas stations do?

And, a lot of places do sell cars. LL Bean used to sell a Ford a few years back, Sam's Club and Costco both sell cars too.

Personally, I like haggling. There are a few dealerships out here that sell for a "fixed, low price" and they refuse to haggle. Oddly, they have horrible prices.

[Kingofalldems]

6. Yes but car dealers make tons of money fleecing

first time buyers and the gullible. For my money this has got to stop.

[hendo]

7. a lot of the fleecing happens because they push

loans with bad terms on thier customers.

Part of the responsibility for not getting fleeced should fall upon the consumer, imho. Cars are a major expense and people should do some research before they buy one.

[Romulox]

4. Salespeople will exist whether or not the Big 3 survive...

You know, some car salesmen sometimes have bad breath.

Do you think that after the Big 3 die, nobody will have bad breath any more? :shrug:

[hendo]

5. but of course

:sarcasm: